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Dr. Cavortian
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      06-20-2008, 07:27 PM
The brothers sped away from the cops at 100 per, one on a STOLEN
cycle. And these guys didn't deserve to DIE?

They died horribly, I'm happy to say, in the manner in which many
motorcycle nuts die -- SPEEDING BEYOND COMPREHENSION!

But face it, moto-jerks ... the ONLY reason YOU infantile outlaws RIDE
these things is so YOU CAN BREAK THE LAWS OF THE ROAD!

So here's hoping many more of you nitwits kill yourselves this week.
As long as you don't kill or maim others, I look upon your deaths as I
do the daily shooting, stabbing, and OD deaths of drug users and
dealers in our nations' ghettos!

In fact, I always smile inwardly when I read or hear of another
motorcyclist's death! One less dimwit on the highway. One less jerk
on a screaming 140 dbl machine weaving crazily in and out of lanes,
speeding past the "slow" law-abiders, waiting to cut another sucker
off! No need to bother about stop signs and red lights, is there,
pea-brains?

No question -- the world is better off without ALL OF you!

Check out THIS comedy! It made MY day!

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"Motorcycle Ride Ends in Tragedy for Brothers"

"Police Radar Shows Speeds of Up to 100 MPH Before Crashes Off an Exit
Ramp in Baltimore"

By Aaron C. Davis
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, June 20, 2008; B01



The Heureaux brothers were riding motorcycles, heading north on
Interstate 95 near Laurel, Maryland, when at speeds of nearly 100 mph
they raced by a state police trooper armed with a radar gun.

The trooper pulled his car out and turned on his lights, a state
police spokesman said yesterday, describing the events of Sunday.
About 16 miles later, Suky Amin Heureaux, 25, and Suky Shamin
Heureaux, 24, died in nearly simultaneous crashes on an exit ramp in
Baltimore.

Today, in Prince George's County, a wake will be held for the
brothers, one of whom was riding a stolen bike, police said. The
service will be attended by family and friends from the Washington
area's Dominican community, some of whom wonder whether the trooper
chased the brothers, a contention police deny.

"They tell me they were racing, that's all they tell me," Maximo
Heureaux, 45, who shared his home in Landover with his sons, said of
his limited contact with investigators. "I don't believe the police;
nobody here believes the police. We all need to know what really
happened."

Sgt. Arthur Betts, a police spokesman, denied that there was a chase
and said the trooper, James Davis, appears to have followed state
police policies.

"This all could have been prevented if they had stopped," Betts said
of the brothers. "The trooper didn't do anything to make them crash
their motorcycles."

Police declined to released the agency's pursuit policy yesterday,
saying the agency must receive a mailed written request before doing
so. Betts, however, said that unlike in many area jurisdictions that
only allow police to pursue felony suspects, Maryland state troopers
are allowed to chase traffic violators.

The issue has special resonance in the Maryland suburbs. Last year, a
Prince George's County police officer's pursuit of a motorcyclist on
the Capital Beltway led to a fatal seven-car pileup; the officer has
been indicted on two counts of vehicular manslaughter.

Betts said Davis clocked three bikers traveling north at about 100 mph
near the exit to Maryland Route 32. Betts said Davis pulled his car
onto the highway, two bikers pulled over, and what he thought was one
biker -- it turned out to be two -- kept going.

Davis did not stop to write a ticket. Davis tried to "catch up" with
the remaining biker but did not chase him, Betts said. Davis did not
request permission to initiate a high-speed pursuit, which would have
required a supervisor's approval, Betts said.

Betts declined to release Davis's maximum speed. He said Davis only
lost sight of the biker at the entrance to the Baltimore Harbor Tunnel
on Interstate 895 in Baltimore, shortly before the crashes Sunday.

With the brothers that day was Pedro Gervacio, 31, who was the lead
rider as the three neared Route 32. Gervacio said a fourth motorcycle
had been with the group, but he was not sure if the rider was with the
group when they passed the police car.

At the tunnel's toll plaza, Davis stopped to see whether cameras
recorded the bike's license plates. The brothers crashed after exiting
the tunnel; each was thrown off an elevated highway as he attempted to
negotiate the off-ramp to Holabird Avenue.

Friends of the brothers, both of whom were fathers, said they probably
fled because they had recently learned from a friend that one of the
bikes, bought this spring from an acquaintance, had been reported
stolen. Suky Shamin also might have been driving with a suspended
license, court records show.

Gervacio said he saw the police car, lifted his right arm and tapped
the top of his helmet, a signal to the others that an officer was
ahead. They slowed, Gervacio said, and he did not see the trooper
leave his post. More than three miles later, however, Gervacio said he
looked in his rear-view mirror and saw the trooper closing fast with
his lights and sirens on.

Gervacio said he pulled over, but the brothers kept going north on
I-95, faster than they had when they first passed the police officer
at the side of the road. Gervacio said the trooper also was clearly
chasing both brothers at that point. He estimated that the cruiser was
five car lengths behind the two bikes.

"That's the last time I saw any of them," Gervacio said.

Several minutes later, an employee at a trucking company at the base
of Holabird exit heard the crash and called police after he saw a
black helmet rolling down the exit ramp. The police were not far
behind, he said.

"When I was on the phone, I could hear the sirens," said the employee,
who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he said he had a prior
criminal record and feared retaliation by police.

The body of Suky Shamin traveled 150 feet beyond the elevated ramp
before landing near a railroad line. The body of Suky Amin was found
below the ramp.

For Maximo Heureaux, an employee of the Maryland-National Capital
Parks and Planning Commission, the deaths ended a link that he said
went with the nickname he had bestowed on both sons. As a young child
in the Dominican Republic, Maximo said he was known for yelling "Suky"
when he saw neighborhood boys riding Suzukis by his parents' home.

"It was my lucky nickname," he said. "I gave it to both of them."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...061903810.html
 
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      06-21-2008, 02:51 AM
On Jun 20, 1:27*pm, "Dr. Cavortian" <perryneh...@hotmail.com> wrote:

You have issues, get HELP now. Then go learn to ride a motorcycle you
jealous cage monkey. I'm just sorry the dickheads didn't take out a
couple of people like you. I've lost more family to ignoranus's like
you out driving drunk. People like you are guilty of premeditated
murder, you just haven't picked your victim yet. You muredering cage
monkey.

--
Keith
Save the earth ride a motorcycle.
 
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Ted Mittelstaedt
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      06-21-2008, 09:02 AM

"Bo Raxo" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
>
> Five big chunks of stupid at work here, 60% from the dead guys, 40% from

the
> cops. I don't expect much better from the squids, but the public

servants,
> I do.
>


OK so then what your saying is that anytime someone on a bike decides
to go, ya know, 100Mph down the highway, the cops should just let them
go right on by and do nothing. Because, to chase them would be stupid.

Uh huh.

Let me tell you what stupid is. Stupid is a ticket for going 75 on a 55Mph
4 lane, divided freeway, at 10:00am in broad daylight with maybe 8 other
cars on the road.

Well, if it's going to be OK for the cops to chase me down and write me
a ticket for 75 - as they did a month ago - by God they're gonna
chase down the guy going 100Mph. As a voter if they didn't I'd damn well
see that they did next time around.

Because if I'm going to have to pay a ticket for going 75, then by God he is
going to pay one also. And if he kills himself trying to get out of paying,
then that's his choice.

Ted


 
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Ted Mittelstaedt
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      06-21-2008, 05:43 PM

"Bo Raxo" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed). ..
>
> "Ted Mittelstaedt" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:newscache$8f2t2k$k9u1$(E-Mail Removed)...
> >
> > "Bo Raxo" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed). ..
> >>
> >>
> >> Five big chunks of stupid at work here, 60% from the dead guys, 40%

from
> > the
> >> cops. I don't expect much better from the squids, but the public

> > servants,
> >> I do.
> >>

> >
> > OK so then what your saying is that anytime someone on a bike decides
> > to go, ya know, 100Mph down the highway, the cops should just let them
> > go right on by and do nothing. Because, to chase them would be stupid.
> >
> > Uh huh.

>
> I'm saying they should check with their supervisor for permission to chase
> them. The supervisor combines a knowledge of the local roads and traffic
> conditions with real-time traffic density reports (which probably aren't
> accessible to the officer on patrol, and in any event there are other
> reasons to kick this up to management).
>
> Sometimes you can chase them. Sometimes you can't. In most urban areas,
> you have an eye in the sky. Wait for them to take an offramp, get the
> nearest patrol car to pull them over. It can also be worth it to put a
> patrol cruiser or two on the road in their path, to see if that slows them
> down (without chasing them), and to allow the dashboard cams to get the
> plate.
>
> If it isn't stolen, you can pick the perp up at your leisure. If it is
> stolen, chances are it's about to crash very, very soon.
>
> >
> > Let me tell you what stupid is. Stupid is a ticket for going 75 on a
> > 55Mph
> > 4 lane, divided freeway, at 10:00am in broad daylight with maybe 8 other
> > cars on the road.
> >

>
> First, nobody around here does 55 mph. If that's the posted speed limit,
> traffic will be flowing at around 65, maybe 70. Your safest bet on a

bike
> is to move a little faster than traffic, moving up through it, because
> people next to you don't see you (and will swerve in to your lane), so you
> don't want to sit next to anybody. People approaching from behind

sometimes
> don't see you - drivers are only looking for car-sized things, and on a

bike
> you really are essentially invisible. Your best bet is to keep moving.
>
> It may interest you to know I once explained this to a California Highway
> Patrol officer at the Marin side of 101 just above the Golden Gate Bridge,
> where he'd pulled me over (IIRC I hit 60 in a 45). I told him I was doing
> 10 over to keep moving through traffic, and when his white pursuit Camaro
> came up on my tail too close, I didn't realize it was a police car in

those
> small bike mirrors, and I speed up to get some distance and move to

another
> lane, away from him.
>


I've employed a variety of tricks to get out of tickets, some which have
worked, some not. Unfortunately in this case it was the old story of
a little small town that's a bedroom community of a big city, who
creatively adjusted their city boundaries to encompass about 3 miles
of very lightly travelled state highway, specifically as a revenue source.
Tricks don't work with those kinds of speed traps.

Points are not involved in this one because after paying their fine if
you pay an extra $70 for "traffic school" they divert the ticket so it
doesen't go onto your driving record. (and thus your insurance rates
aren't affected) After all, all they want is for you to pay for their city
government, they don't want to actually punish you by making your
insurance rates go up.

The Oregon legislature actually passed a law a few years back that
restricted the amount of ticket revenue these towns could take. There
was one down off I-5 somewhere that was getting something like
7 million dollars a year in speeding tickets and it comprised about
95% of their entire city budget. Somehow that town had got ODOT
to reduce the posted speed on that small section of I-5 to 55. The
rest of I-5 is 65 or higher.

Ted


 
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      06-21-2008, 08:26 PM
On Jun 21, 2:10*pm, Janice <Noth...@you.com> wrote:
> In article <Haedna5fnYvDoMHVnZ2dnUVZ_q7in...@speakeasy.net> ,
> *Michael Sierchio <kudzu-usen...@tenebras.com> wrote:
>
> > That *is* one of the many benefits of having an *awesome*
> > power-to-weight ratio! *Squeezing between zoo escapees
> > such as you is another boon (legal in California, by the way).

>
> Only if you are going under 45 mph (maybe 40)


Speed is life or so I'm told. Me I don't need blistering
speed...bright red agonizing pain across all exposed surfaces will
suffice.
--
Keith
Cage Monkey's MUST DIE!
 
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      06-21-2008, 11:08 PM
On Jun 21, 4:49*pm, Michael Sierchio <kudzu-usen...@tenebras.com>
wrote:
> Janice wrote:
> > In article <Haedna5fnYvDoMHVnZ2dnUVZ_q7in...@speakeasy.net> ,
> > *Michael Sierchio <kudzu-usen...@tenebras.com> wrote:

>
> >> That *is* one of the many benefits of having an *awesome*
> >> power-to-weight ratio! *Squeezing between zoo escapees
> >> such as you is another boon (legal in California, by the way).

>
> > Only if you are going under 45 mph (maybe 40)

>
> Not so. *There's no specific limit, just "safe and prudent".
> That's a bit of a laugh -- if I took it seriously, I wouldn't
> be on a bike!
>
> - M


You've got that wrong. You would not be in a cage (unsafe at every
speed including parked). The motorcycle is safest as it engages the
ultimate saftey device 99.999999% of the time.
--
Keith
Cage Monkeys must DIE!
(sounds like a cheap B horror movie eh?)
 
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      06-22-2008, 07:12 AM

"Janice" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> In article <newscache$5iqt2k$v6y1$(E-Mail Removed)>,
> "Ted Mittelstaedt" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> > The Oregon legislature actually passed a law a few years back that
> > restricted the amount of ticket revenue these towns could take. There
> > was one down off I-5 somewhere that was getting something like
> > 7 million dollars a year in speeding tickets and it comprised about
> > 95% of their entire city budget. Somehow that town had got ODOT
> > to reduce the posted speed on that small section of I-5 to 55. The
> > rest of I-5 is 65 or higher.

>
> What city is it? It is already bad enough coming through california
> which is 70 on i5


Coburg, OR. I looked it up, actually I was a bit off on their figures.

Their "best" year was 2003-2004 when they fetched $774K comprising
around 50% of their budget.

In 2006-2007 they fetched $324K comprising 30% of their budget

Good story about it here:

http://www.prisontalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95860

Here's where the good stuff is, though:

http://www.copspy.com/OR.html

Ted


 
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      06-22-2008, 07:12 AM

"Janice" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> In article <newscache$5iqt2k$v6y1$(E-Mail Removed)>,
> "Ted Mittelstaedt" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> > The Oregon legislature actually passed a law a few years back that
> > restricted the amount of ticket revenue these towns could take. There
> > was one down off I-5 somewhere that was getting something like
> > 7 million dollars a year in speeding tickets and it comprised about
> > 95% of their entire city budget. Somehow that town had got ODOT
> > to reduce the posted speed on that small section of I-5 to 55. The
> > rest of I-5 is 65 or higher.

>
> What city is it? It is already bad enough coming through california
> which is 70 on i5


Coburg, OR. I looked it up, actually I was a bit off on their figures.

Their "best" year was 2003-2004 when they fetched $774K comprising
around 50% of their budget.

In 2006-2007 they fetched $324K comprising 30% of their budget

Good story about it here:

http://www.prisontalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95860

Here's where the good stuff is, though:

http://www.copspy.com/OR.html

Ted


 
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      06-22-2008, 10:03 AM
In article <(E-Mail Removed)> ,
Michael Sierchio <kudzu-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Janice wrote:
> > In article <(E-Mail Removed)> ,
> > Michael Sierchio <kudzu-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >
> >> That *is* one of the many benefits of having an *awesome*
> >> power-to-weight ratio! Squeezing between zoo escapees
> >> such as you is another boon (legal in California, by the way).

> >
> > Only if you are going under 45 mph (maybe 40)

>
> Not so. There's no specific limit, just "safe and prudent".
> That's a bit of a laugh -- if I took it seriously, I wouldn't
> be on a bike!


Learned it in traffic school, you can ride on a motorcycle between cars
only if you are going no faster than 40 or 45 mph. What is the term for
this? I will look it up. This is for California.
 
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      06-22-2008, 12:53 PM
On Jun 22, 3:03�am, Janice <Noth...@you.com> wrote:

> Learned it in traffic school, you can ride on a motorcycle between cars
> only if you are going no faster than 40 or 45 mph. �What is the term for
> this? �I will look it up. �This is for California.


That's not a California law, it's just the conventional wisdom of us
more intelligent riders to STOP splitting lanes when the traffic is
moving that fast.

Originally, us old time bikers just wanted to ride side by side for
companionship on long rides. We wanted to SHARE lanes, but the cops
didn't like the idea, so we got stopped for sharing lanes.

As the traffic volume increased during the gas crises of the 1970's,
more riders began to commute by motorcycle, and they would reduce
their commute time by riding the line between cars.

That is called SPLITTING lanes. It's one thing to pass stalled traffic
in a huge freeway parking lot during rush hour, but many riders
routinely began using the "motorcycle lane" between cars, passing
everything on the road.

One rider boasted that he and his friends had split lanes between
totally stopped traffic at 80 mph...

I have been stopped for splitting lanes at only 25 mph. I was
following an LAPD Kawasaki on the Ventura Freeway.

The cop noticed the twin headlights of my new sportbike, and he
shouted,
"If you're keeping up with me, you're riding too fast!"

Then he asked me whether my new bike was a GSXR750 or a GSXR1100.

I told him to read the large decals on the side covers and figure it
out...

So, the speed which traffic officers will tolerate while splitting
lanes varies as to what kind of motorcycle is splitting lanes and
whether the cop has a
hard on for that kind of bike.

 
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