The old man has a new toy but it's *work* to ride it. A pic is here:
http://rogue-rider.blogspot.com/

That's our "all-terrain" vehicle. It can even load itself onto the
back of a trailer, without ramps. Don't you just love hydraulics? <g>
Yeah, I know it's not new but it's a running son-of-a-gun.
RGD, you can relate to all that, right?

BTW, no have time for chat rooms but Beej and Precision, thinks for
the votes of confidence. :-)

Catch y'all later. There's a bunch of packing boxes that need
filling.

Shiny side up, y'all. Ride safe!

On Mar 5, 5:37*pm, "Pender" <whatisthefreque...@kenneth.net> wrote:
> "Westexas Rider" <westexassu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:f6afaa9a-e07c-4f2b-905e-(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> > The old man has a new toy but it's *work* to ride it. A pic is here:
> >http://rogue-rider.blogspot.com/
>
> > That's our "all-terrain" vehicle. *It can even load itself onto the
> > back of a trailer, without ramps. *Don't you just love hydraulics? <g>
> > Yeah, I know it's not new but it's a running son-of-a-gun.
> > RGD, you can relate to all that, right? *
>
> > BTW, no have time for chat rooms but Beej and Precision, thinks for
> > the votes of confidence. *:-)
>
> > Catch y'all later. *There's a bunch of packing boxes that need
> > filling.
>
> > Shiny side up, y'all. *Ride safe!
>
> I know you two sweet ones are enjoying the new pad. *Simple pleasure ofa
> new home. *Happy for you.

Thank you. :-) I'll be glad when I can move in.
We're closer, as Joe dug the water line today and if the guy with the
jack hammer ever shows up, he can finish setting the septic tank. Joe
hit a rock shelf and halted the dig. We don't know any powder
monkeys. The one who lived across the road from us, had a accident.
Lightening struck his shed where he kept his black powder. Bad thing
is, he was in the shed at the time.

On Mar 5, 10:55*pm, "Pender" <whatisthefreque...@kenneth.net> wrote:
> "Westexas Rider" <westexassu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:cd6bd69b-143f-4091-9aea-(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Mar 5, 5:37 pm, "Pender" <whatisthefreque...@kenneth.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "Westexas Rider" <westexassu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:f6afaa9a-e07c-4f2b-905e-(E-Mail Removed)....
>
> > > The old man has a new toy but it's *work* to ride it. A pic is here:
> > >http://rogue-rider.blogspot.com/
>
> > > That's our "all-terrain" vehicle. It can even load itself onto the
> > > back of a trailer, without ramps. Don't you just love hydraulics? <g>
> > > Yeah, I know it's not new but it's a running son-of-a-gun.
> > > RGD, you can relate to all that, right?
>
> > > BTW, no have time for chat rooms but Beej and Precision, thinks for
> > > the votes of confidence. :-)
>
> > > Catch y'all later. There's a bunch of packing boxes that need
> > > filling.
>
> > > Shiny side up, y'all. Ride safe!
>
> > I know you two sweet ones are enjoying the new pad. Simple pleasure of a
> > new home. Happy for you.
>
> Thank you. *:-) *I'll be glad when I can move in.
> We're closer, as Joe dug the water line today and if the guy with the
> jack hammer ever shows up, he can finish setting the septic tank. *Joe
> hit a rock shelf and halted the dig. *We don't know any powder
> monkeys. *The one who lived across the road from us, had a accident.
> Lightening struck his shed where he kept his black powder. *Bad thing
> is, he was in the shed at the time.
>
> are you saying you have to blast throught the rock? *Wow! *We had tanks when
> I was a kid, not too deep and we poured them in place, but that was in the
> low country around Mobile, Alabama. *No rock, but everytime it rained the
> toilets backed up. *I still remember the smell.
>
> now, I got city water. *Woo-hooo.

It would be easier to blast the rock but a jack hammer will do.

"Poured in place" septic tanks, huh? Can't do that here, probably not
around Mobile either. There's laws and regulations, certifications,
all kinds of 'crap' to deal with. You have to have a certain size of
tank, has to be made to certain specs, set a certain way, with lateral
lines (leech field) that have to be within code. Joe has to do it
right, or when we die and the kids want to sell this place, they'd
have to dig everything up and redo it.
Joe was going to set (2) 500 gal. concrete tanks but decided to go
with one big poly tank. We could get by just fine, with one concrete
tank but that wouldn't be "code".

As for backing up, I've had septic systems for years, even with just
one 500 gal. tank and never once has one backed up. That happens in
town all the time though, with the sewers.

On Mar 6, 9:03*pm, "Pender" <whatisthefreque...@kenneth.net> wrote:
> "Westexas Rider" <westexassu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:260e5ef2-c059-4293-b5a3-(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Mar 5, 10:55 pm, "Pender" <whatisthefreque...@kenneth.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "Westexas Rider" <westexassu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:cd6bd69b-143f-4091-9aea-(E-Mail Removed)....
> > On Mar 5, 5:37 pm, "Pender" <whatisthefreque...@kenneth.net> wrote:
>
> > > "Westexas Rider" <westexassu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> > >news:f6afaa9a-e07c-4f2b-905e-(E-Mail Removed)....
>
> > > > The old man has a new toy but it's *work* to ride it. A pic is here:
> > > >http://rogue-rider.blogspot.com/
>
> > > > That's our "all-terrain" vehicle. It can even load itself onto the
> > > > back of a trailer, without ramps. Don't you just love hydraulics? <g>
> > > > Yeah, I know it's not new but it's a running son-of-a-gun.
> > > > RGD, you can relate to all that, right?
>
> > > > BTW, no have time for chat rooms but Beej and Precision, thinks for
> > > > the votes of confidence. :-)
>
> > > > Catch y'all later. There's a bunch of packing boxes that need
> > > > filling.
>
> > > > Shiny side up, y'all. Ride safe!
>
> > > I know you two sweet ones are enjoying the new pad. Simple pleasure of a
> > > new home. Happy for you.
>
> > Thank you. :-) I'll be glad when I can move in.
> > We're closer, as Joe dug the water line today and if the guy with the
> > jack hammer ever shows up, he can finish setting the septic tank. Joe
> > hit a rock shelf and halted the dig. We don't know any powder
> > monkeys. The one who lived across the road from us, had a accident.
> > Lightening struck his shed where he kept his black powder. Bad thing
> > is, he was in the shed at the time.
>
> > are you saying you have to blast throught the rock? Wow! We had tanks when
> > I was a kid, not too deep and we poured them in place, but that was in the
> > low country around Mobile, Alabama. No rock, but everytime it rained the
> > toilets backed up. I still remember the smell.
>
> > now, I got city water. Woo-hooo.
>
> It would be easier to blast the rock but a jack hammer will do.
>
> "Poured in place" septic tanks, huh? *Can't do that here, probably not
> around Mobile either. *There's laws and regulations, certifications,
> all kinds of 'crap' to deal with. *You have to have a certain size of
> tank, has to be made to certain specs, set a certain way, with lateral
> lines (leech field) that have to be within code. *Joe has to do it
> right, or when we die and the kids want to sell this place, they'd
> have to dig everything up and redo it.
> Joe was going to set (2) 500 gal. concrete tanks but decided to go
> with one big poly tank. *We could get by just fine, with one concrete
> tank but that wouldn't be "code".
>
> As for backing up, I've had septic systems for years, even with just
> one 500 gal. tank and never once has one backed up. *That happens in
> town all the time though, with the sewers.
>
> yeah. *The home I grew up in was about 1/4 mile from the canal to Dog River,
> and the elevation only about 10 feet below. *Mobile gets lots of rain so it
> wasn't rare for the tank to fill up from rain soaking. *Don't know the exact
> physics, but in the Navy they always told us s... flows down hill. *Not
> always.

I've been through Mobile, well, as close as I-10. It's about like the
Big Qu-Easy, huh?

>
> Anyway, doing it right is always the best way. *It seems that all things
> regarding electricity, plumbing, driveways, easements, clearances, etc. have
> all come to be laden with laws, regulations, certifications and the like.
> Went last year to buy a water heater, and the guy at home depot said it had
> to be installed by a certified pro and then inspected. *Do it yourself is
> dead.

Shh, don't say that too loud.

>
> Surgery, my chosen profession, is also so regulated that the patient rarely
> gets the best the doctor has to offer, but more what the hospital will allow
> the doctor to do. *Seems a shame.

It IS a shame.

>
> Anyway, back to happy. *Hope you can move in soon.
>
> P

Thanks a bunch, me too. We're shooting for the 15th but I've already
started moving a few things in. The cage is loaded for another run in
the A.M.. When we get all settled, ride on out with Louie for a
visit. :-)

On Mar 6, 9:07*pm, "Pender" <whatisthefreque...@kenneth.net> wrote:
>
> PS: my mother was a fat lady in the RBB&B circus. *We lived in mobile homes
> until I was 16, thus my accidental knowledge of septic tanks.

Were you the tight-rope walker?

>
> One time the pumping truck sunk into the soft wet ground and broke in the
> lid of our tank. *Nice. *Rednecks. *Go figure.

Yeah, you gotta watch those rednecks. They do stuff like saying,
"Here, hold my beer and watch this!"

Never had to have a septic tank pumped. There's one here at the Cisco
farm that's been in the ground and used every day, for over 20 years.
Never needed pumping. Never used any of that septic aid either.
That's what all that natural bacteria is for.

On Mar 6, 8:03*pm, "Pender" <whatisthefreque...@kenneth.net> wrote:

> Surgery, my chosen profession, is also so regulated that the patient rarely
> gets the best the doctor has to offer, but more what the hospital will allow
> the doctor to do. *Seems a shame.

heh, ever want to know why I'm such a grumpy mean ol' so and so just
ping me some time. It's a "winner" in my book and I was a medic for
longer than I can recall. But yeah I've had septic, never backed it
up. Can't understand idiots that drink bottled water. City water is
just the same and as for hard water? What's the problem, water is
water adn long as it isn't alkili it's just fine.
--
Keith
Raised on water so hard you chewed it.

On Mar 7, 3:55*pm, "Pender" <whatisthefreque...@kenneth.net> wrote:
SNIP
> i always thought hard water was referring to prostatitis.

ROTFLMAO... No seriously, when I was in high school the water in our
little podunk town would eat your hot water heater elembents in about
4-6 months. Mostly it was calcium iirc. There were nice little old
ladies in town who could change out both heating elements on a 40gal
hot water tank faster than the plumbers could.

obtw I was refering to a displaced pelvis with no fractures. 8^( I've
delt with customers with broken hips and I'd trade places with them in
a heart beat.

p.s. Lubby's was educational...

--
keith

On Mar 5, 6:37*pm, "Pender" <whatisthefreque...@kenneth.net> wrote:
> "Westexas Rider" <westexassu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:f6afaa9a-e07c-4f2b-905e-(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> > The old man has a new toy but it's *work* to ride it. A pic is here:
> >http://rogue-rider.blogspot.com/
>
> > That's our "all-terrain" vehicle. *It can even load itself onto the
> > back of a trailer, without ramps. *Don't you just love hydraulics? <g>
> > Yeah, I know it's not new but it's a running son-of-a-gun.
> > RGD, you can relate to all that, right? *
>
> > BTW, no have time for chat rooms but Beej and Precision, thinks for
> > the votes of confidence. *:-)
>
> > Catch y'all later. *There's a bunch of packing boxes that need
> > filling.
>
> > Shiny side up, y'all. *Ride safe!
>
> I know you two sweet ones are enjoying the new pad. *Simple pleasure ofa
> new home. *Happy for you.

Dittos here too.

On Mar 5, 11:55*pm, "Pender" <whatisthefreque...@kenneth.net> wrote:
> "Westexas Rider" <westexassu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:cd6bd69b-143f-4091-9aea-(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Mar 5, 5:37 pm, "Pender" <whatisthefreque...@kenneth.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Westexas Rider" <westexassu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:f6afaa9a-e07c-4f2b-905e-(E-Mail Removed)....
>
> > > The old man has a new toy but it's *work* to ride it. A pic is here:
> > >http://rogue-rider.blogspot.com/
>
> > > That's our "all-terrain" vehicle. It can even load itself onto the
> > > back of a trailer, without ramps. Don't you just love hydraulics? <g>
> > > Yeah, I know it's not new but it's a running son-of-a-gun.
> > > RGD, you can relate to all that, right?
>
> > > BTW, no have time for chat rooms but Beej and Precision, thinks for
> > > the votes of confidence. :-)
>
> > > Catch y'all later. There's a bunch of packing boxes that need
> > > filling.
>
> > > Shiny side up, y'all. Ride safe!
>
> > I know you two sweet ones are enjoying the new pad. Simple pleasure of a
> > new home. Happy for you.
>
> Thank you. *:-) *I'll be glad when I can move in.
> We're closer, as Joe dug the water line today and if the guy with the
> jack hammer ever shows up, he can finish setting the septic tank. *Joe
> hit a rock shelf and halted the dig. *We don't know any powder
> monkeys. *The one who lived across the road from us, had a accident.
> Lightening struck his shed where he kept his black powder. *Bad thing
> is, he was in the shed at the time.
>
> are you saying you have to blast throught the rock? *Wow! *We had tanks when
> I was a kid, not too deep and we poured them in place, but that was in the
> low country around Mobile, Alabama. *No rock, but everytime it rained the
> toilets backed up. *I still remember the smell.
>
> now, I got city water. *Woo-hooo.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

---city running water, not bad for the area you live in, Pender.

On Mar 6, 10:03*pm, "Pender" <whatisthefreque...@kenneth.net> wrote:
> "Westexas Rider" <westexassu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:260e5ef2-c059-4293-b5a3-(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Mar 5, 10:55 pm, "Pender" <whatisthefreque...@kenneth.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Westexas Rider" <westexassu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:cd6bd69b-143f-4091-9aea-(E-Mail Removed)....
> > On Mar 5, 5:37 pm, "Pender" <whatisthefreque...@kenneth.net> wrote:
>
> > > "Westexas Rider" <westexassu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> > >news:f6afaa9a-e07c-4f2b-905e-(E-Mail Removed)....
>
> > > > The old man has a new toy but it's *work* to ride it. A pic is here:
> > > >http://rogue-rider.blogspot.com/
>
> > > > That's our "all-terrain" vehicle. It can even load itself onto the
> > > > back of a trailer, without ramps. Don't you just love hydraulics? <g>
> > > > Yeah, I know it's not new but it's a running son-of-a-gun.
> > > > RGD, you can relate to all that, right?
>
> > > > BTW, no have time for chat rooms but Beej and Precision, thinks for
> > > > the votes of confidence. :-)
>
> > > > Catch y'all later. There's a bunch of packing boxes that need
> > > > filling.
>
> > > > Shiny side up, y'all. Ride safe!
>
> > > I know you two sweet ones are enjoying the new pad. Simple pleasure of a
> > > new home. Happy for you.
>
> > Thank you. :-) I'll be glad when I can move in.
> > We're closer, as Joe dug the water line today and if the guy with the
> > jack hammer ever shows up, he can finish setting the septic tank. Joe
> > hit a rock shelf and halted the dig. We don't know any powder
> > monkeys. The one who lived across the road from us, had a accident.
> > Lightening struck his shed where he kept his black powder. Bad thing
> > is, he was in the shed at the time.
>
> > are you saying you have to blast throught the rock? Wow! We had tanks when
> > I was a kid, not too deep and we poured them in place, but that was in the
> > low country around Mobile, Alabama. No rock, but everytime it rained the
> > toilets backed up. I still remember the smell.
>
> > now, I got city water. Woo-hooo.
>
> It would be easier to blast the rock but a jack hammer will do.
>
> "Poured in place" septic tanks, huh? *Can't do that here, probably not
> around Mobile either. *There's laws and regulations, certifications,
> all kinds of 'crap' to deal with. *You have to have a certain size of
> tank, has to be made to certain specs, set a certain way, with lateral
> lines (leech field) that have to be within code. *Joe has to do it
> right, or when we die and the kids want to sell this place, they'd
> have to dig everything up and redo it.
> Joe was going to set (2) 500 gal. concrete tanks but decided to go
> with one big poly tank. *We could get by just fine, with one concrete
> tank but that wouldn't be "code".
>
> As for backing up, I've had septic systems for years, even with just
> one 500 gal. tank and never once has one backed up. *That happens in
> town all the time though, with the sewers.
>
> yeah. *The home I grew up in was about 1/4 mile from the canal to Dog River,
> and the elevation only about 10 feet below. *Mobile gets lots of rain so it
> wasn't rare for the tank to fill up from rain soaking. *Don't know the exact
> physics, but in the Navy they always told us s... flows down hill. *Not
> always.
>
> Anyway, doing it right is always the best way. *It seems that all things
> regarding electricity, plumbing, driveways, easements, clearances, etc. have
> all come to be laden with laws, regulations, certifications and the like.
> Went last year to buy a water heater, and the guy at home depot said it had
> to be installed by a certified pro and then inspected. *Do it yourself is
> dead.
>
> Surgery, my chosen profession, is also so regulated that the patient rarely
> gets the best the doctor has to offer, but more what the hospital will allow
> the doctor to do. *Seems a shame.
>
> Anyway, back to happy. *Hope you can move in soon.
>
> P- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

''do it your self'' works out in the country. Codes are fairly low key
out here. Now living where theres close neighbors, is quite different,
I'd suspect.