This is a follow on from a previous post. I have had to buy a new PC
due to problems with the old one. Windows 7 does not support the old
modem so I bought a Edimax router as recommended on here. Both of the
suggested methods of configuring the router do not work on the new PC
- via a CD or via entering an IP address in a web browser. The process
stops at the initial stage of using the provided log in / password. I
have double checked all of the connections which are correct and I
have switched off the windows firewall. Norton - which came with the
machine - has not been activated and no firewall shows for that
programme.

As a test I linked the router to the netbook I am sending this message
on and the configuration programme moved past the password stage. The
Netbook also uses Windows 7 and I did not make any adjustment to the
firewall settings and yet the IP / browser method seems to work.
Clearly I don't want to run the router off a netbook.

Any ideas as to why an almost new, unmodified PC would prevent the
router configuration working while it would work on a netbook? Note I
am a numpty so plain english answers are essential.

Catman is kindly pondering this question as well as trying to rescue
the old PC but I thought I'd throw open the router issue to the FOAK.

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On 22/05/2011 19:22, Paul Corfield wrote:
> This is a follow on from a previous post. I have had to buy a new PC
> due to problems with the old one. Windows 7 does not support the old
> modem so I bought a Edimax router as recommended on here. Both of the
> suggested methods of configuring the router do not work on the new PC
> - via a CD or via entering an IP address in a web browser. The process
> stops at the initial stage of using the provided log in / password. I
> have double checked all of the connections which are correct and I
> have switched off the windows firewall. Norton - which came with the
> machine - has not been activated and no firewall shows for that
> programme.
>
> As a test I linked the router to the netbook I am sending this message
> on and the configuration programme moved past the password stage. The
> Netbook also uses Windows 7 and I did not make any adjustment to the
> firewall settings and yet the IP / browser method seems to work.
> Clearly I don't want to run the router off a netbook.
>
> Any ideas as to why an almost new, unmodified PC would prevent the
> router configuration working while it would work on a netbook? Note I
> am a numpty so plain english answers are essential.
>
> Catman is kindly pondering this question as well as trying to rescue
> the old PC but I thought I'd throw open the router issue to the FOAK.
>

I'm going for a guess that both the router web config and the software
are using javascript, and the new PC does not yet have it.

You can, you realise, configure the router using the netbook and use it
with all the machines.

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Paul Corfield <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in news:a6857c9f-eebe-4944-8049-
(E-Mail Removed):

> This is a follow on from a previous post. I have had to buy a new PC
> due to problems with the old one. Windows 7 does not support the old
> modem so I bought a Edimax router as recommended on here. Both of the
> suggested methods of configuring the router do not work on the new PC
> - via a CD or via entering an IP address in a web browser. The process
> stops at the initial stage of using the provided log in / password. I
> have double checked all of the connections which are correct and I
> have switched off the windows firewall. Norton - which came with the
> machine - has not been activated and no firewall shows for that
> programme.
>
> As a test I linked the router to the netbook I am sending this message
> on and the configuration programme moved past the password stage. The
> Netbook also uses Windows 7 and I did not make any adjustment to the
> firewall settings and yet the IP / browser method seems to work.
> Clearly I don't want to run the router off a netbook.
>
> Any ideas as to why an almost new, unmodified PC would prevent the
> router configuration working while it would work on a netbook? Note I
> am a numpty so plain english answers are essential.
>
> Catman is kindly pondering this question as well as trying to rescue
> the old PC but I thought I'd throw open the router issue to the FOAK.
>

which cable are you using from the Edimax to the netbook & PC? I note that
you have USB or "RJ45 Fast ethernet" options. Using the RJ45 option means
you won't need any special drivers as Win7 should just use standard network
protocols.


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On May 22, 7:45*pm, wessie <putmynameh...@tesco.net> wrote:

> which cable are you using from the Edimax to the netbook & PC? I note that
> you have USB or "RJ45 Fast ethernet" options. Using the RJ45 option means
> you won't need any special drivers as Win7 should just use standard network
> protocols.

I am using the ethernet cable as per the instructions. I have plugged
in the USB cable once but it didn't cause any reaction from the PC.

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On May 22, 7:26*pm, Catman <cat...@cuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote:
> On 22/05/2011 19:22, Paul Corfield wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > This is a follow on from a previous post. *I have had to buy a new PC
> > due to problems with the old one. Windows 7 does not support the old
> > modem so I bought a Edimax router as recommended on here. *Both of the
> > suggested methods of configuring the router do not work on the new PC
> > - via a CD or via entering an IP address in a web browser. The process
> > stops at the initial stage of using the provided log in / password. *I
> > have double checked all of the connections which are correct and I
> > have switched off the windows firewall. Norton - which came with the
> > machine - has not been activated and no firewall shows for that
> > programme.
>
> > As a test I linked the router to the netbook I am sending this message
> > on and the configuration programme moved past the password stage. *The
> > Netbook also uses Windows 7 and I did not make any adjustment to the
> > firewall settings and yet the IP / browser method seems to work.
> > Clearly I don't want to run the router off a netbook.
>
> > Any ideas as to why an almost new, unmodified PC would prevent the
> > router configuration working while it would work on a netbook? *Note I
> > am a numpty so plain english answers are essential.
>
> > Catman is kindly pondering this question as well as trying to rescue
> > the old PC but I thought I'd throw open the router issue to the FOAK.
>
> I'm going for a guess that both the router web config and the software
> are using javascript, and the new PC does not yet have it.

Well that's a tad stupid if your hunch is correct. I don't recall the
netbook loading up Java but it may well be part of another programme.
Adobe Flash?

> You can, you realise, configure the router using the netbook and use it
> with all the machines.

You know how I said numpty? I think I have tracked down the router
settings from my ISP but I need to phone them to make sure I have the
right ones given I am with Talk Talk Business but am really on a
legacy Pipex broadband (non LLU) contract.

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On May 22, 9:21*pm, Paul Corfield <pl...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On May 22, 7:26*pm, Catman <cat...@cuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 22/05/2011 19:22, Paul Corfield wrote:
>
> > > This is a follow on from a previous post. *I have had to buy a new PC
> > > due to problems with the old one. Windows 7 does not support the old
> > > modem so I bought a Edimax router as recommended on here. *Both of the
> > > suggested methods of configuring the router do not work on the new PC
> > > - via a CD or via entering an IP address in a web browser. The process
> > > stops at the initial stage of using the provided log in / password. *I
> > > have double checked all of the connections which are correct and I
> > > have switched off the windows firewall. Norton - which came with the
> > > machine - has not been activated and no firewall shows for that
> > > programme.
>
> > > As a test I linked the router to the netbook I am sending this message
> > > on and the configuration programme moved past the password stage. *The
> > > Netbook also uses Windows 7 and I did not make any adjustment to the
> > > firewall settings and yet the IP / browser method seems to work.
> > > Clearly I don't want to run the router off a netbook.
>
> > > Any ideas as to why an almost new, unmodified PC would prevent the
> > > router configuration working while it would work on a netbook? *Note I
> > > am a numpty so plain english answers are essential.
>
> > > Catman is kindly pondering this question as well as trying to rescue
> > > the old PC but I thought I'd throw open the router issue to the FOAK.
>
> > I'm going for a guess that both the router web config and the software
> > are using javascript, and the new PC does not yet have it.
>
> Well that's a tad stupid if your hunch is correct. *I don't recall the
> netbook loading up Java but it may well be part of another programme.
> Adobe Flash?
>
> > You can, you realise, configure the router using the netbook and use it
> > with all the machines.
>
> You know how I said numpty? * I think I have tracked down the router
> settings from my ISP but I need to phone them to make sure I have the
> right ones given I am with Talk Talk Business but am really on a
> legacy Pipex broadband (non LLU) contract.

Right I have got the settings from Talk Talk and have entered them via
the netbook. Surprisingly simple. When the netbook is plugged into
the ethernet cable all is well as I automatically connect to
broadband. If I plug the ethernet cable into the PC I cannot get a
connection and if i try to set up the router then nothing is detected
by the PC / control panel. I have switched both the router and the PC
off and on in order to see if a reboot assisted. They didn't.
Similarly although the netbook can see the wireless router I cannot
connect to the net as the log on / security key is not recognised even
though I know I have entered it as set up. God this is a pain in the
bloody preverbial although not as much as having to sit on the hall
floor to use Broadband!

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On Mon, 23 May 2011 10:14:49 -0700 (PDT), Paul Corfield
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>Right I have got the settings from Talk Talk and have entered them via
>the netbook. Surprisingly simple. When the netbook is plugged into
>the ethernet cable all is well as I automatically connect to
>broadband. If I plug the ethernet cable into the PC I cannot get a
>connection and if i try to set up the router then nothing is detected
>by the PC / control panel. I have switched both the router and the PC
>off and on in order to see if a reboot assisted. They didn't.
>Similarly although the netbook can see the wireless router I cannot
>connect to the net as the log on / security key is not recognised even
>though I know I have entered it as set up. God this is a pain in the
>bloody preverbial although not as much as having to sit on the hall
>floor to use Broadband!

Getting nothing at all on the PC could be an IP address issue: either
the PC is set up to use DHCP but the router isn't acting as a DHCP
server, or the PC has a fixed IP address in the wrong subnet.

The problem with the wireless security key could be that you're not
using the same type of wireless security at each end: there are all
sorts of different settings to get wrong - WEP/WPA/WPA2, AES or TKIP
encryption, etc.

David

On May 23, 11:27*pm, David <new...@djl.freeuk.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 23 May 2011 10:14:49 -0700 (PDT), Paul Corfield
>
> <pl...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >Right I have got the settings from Talk Talk and have entered them via
> >the netbook. Surprisingly simple. *When the netbook is plugged into
> >the ethernet cable all is well as I automatically connect to
> >broadband. If I plug the ethernet cable into the PC I cannot get a
> >connection and if i try to set up the router then nothing is detected
> >by the PC / control panel. I have switched both the router and the PC
> >off and on in order to see if a reboot assisted. They didn't.
> >Similarly although the netbook can see the wireless router I cannot
> >connect to the net as the log on / security key is not recognised even
> >though I know I have entered it as set up. *God this is a pain in the
> >bloody preverbial although not as much as having to sit on the hall
> >floor to use Broadband!
>
> Getting nothing at all on the PC could be an IP address issue: either
> the PC is set up to use DHCP but the router isn't acting as a DHCP
> server, or the PC has a fixed IP address in the wrong subnet.

I still think is down to the wretched set up software not working with
the PC.
It clearly does work asit has loaded on the netbook.

> The problem with the wireless security key could be that you're not
> using the same type of wireless security at each end: there are all
> sorts of different settings to get wrong - WEP/WPA/WPA2, AES or TKIP
> encryption, etc.

Or it could be down to the user not quite putting in the password
properly - doh!
I am managing to use the netbook wirelessly without any great issue
this morning.

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Paul Corfield <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in news:ffa00148-768a-4012-a415-
(E-Mail Removed):


> I still think is down to the wretched set up software not working with
> the PC.
> It clearly does work asit has loaded on the netbook.
>

What software? As per my other post. You should not need to load any
software onto the PC to work with the router via the ethernet port. Any
software supplied with the router would be for those wishing to use the USB
connection, which would require drivers. Through luck it hasn't nobbled the
netbook but sounds like it has confused your desktop.

So, if you have installed anything from a CD/DVD that came with the router,
delete it from the PC.


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BMW R1150GS

On Tue, 24 May 2011 20:26:35 +0000 (UTC), wessie
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Paul Corfield <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in news:ffa00148-768a-4012-a415-
>(E-Mail Removed):
>
>
>> I still think is down to the wretched set up software not working with
>> the PC.
>> It clearly does work asit has loaded on the netbook.
>>
>
>What software? As per my other post. You should not need to load any
>software onto the PC to work with the router via the ethernet port. Any
>software supplied with the router would be for those wishing to use the USB
>connection, which would require drivers. Through luck it hasn't nobbled the
>netbook but sounds like it has confused your desktop.

Well I really haven't got a clue what is going on. I have tried to get
the PC to detect the router and it won't do it. That was via Control
Panel asking the PC to detect the router. Despite it being beside the
router it doesn't detect it. The router is not invisible given the
netbook can find it from another room. Similarly connecting the router
via the ethernet cable causes zero recognition with the PC.

>So, if you have installed anything from a CD/DVD that came with the router,
>delete it from the PC.

there is nothing installed at all. I have taken off anything that
could conceivably cause a conflict. I had tried to see if the
Speedtouch modem would work but it doesn't so it has been deleted. I
have also removed attempts to set up a broadband connection.

The router is obviously set up and working given I can connect to it
easily with the netbook either wirelessly or with the ethernet cable
plugged in. I have got Agent 6 downloaded and installed on the netbook
so I can at least read usenet properly - that has also set up fine and
is downloading fine wirelessly.

There is obviously somthing amiss with the PC but I don't know what it
is.
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