Hello all have you any advise about bike security?
What's a good lock, cant seem to find a proper Krypton U lock in the UK.

<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Hello all have you any advise about bike security?
>What's a good lock, cant seem to find a proper Krypton U lock in the UK.

More important than the lock is what you anchor it to. Ideally
you need a machine-proof ground anchor sitting in a couple of
cubic feet of concrete. Nothing less will do, even if it's inside
your garage. If you're parked away from home you must chain it to
a lamp post or something else not easily cut through. Also
install a dedicated, tamperproof motorcycle alarm. I'd recommend
the Spyball alarms I now routinely fit having lost 3 bikes to the
jackals over the last eight years.

The last one nicked had 4 locks (disk, heavy HT-steel chain,
cable-lock between the wheels and a U-lock) and was chained to a
trailer behind padlocked drive gates. They opened the "insurance
quality" gate padlock simply by inserting a bar and twisting,
then cut a slot in the trailer to slip out the chain. From there
they physically lifted and carried the locked bike into a van,
all without making a sound.

riccip

On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 06:22:18 GMT, riccip <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>Hello all have you any advise about bike security?
>>What's a good lock, cant seem to find a proper Krypton U lock in the UK.
>
>More important than the lock is what you anchor it to. Ideally
>you need a machine-proof ground anchor sitting in a couple of
>cubic feet of concrete. Nothing less will do, even if it's inside
>your garage. If you're parked away from home you must chain it to
>a lamp post or something else not easily cut through. Also
>install a dedicated, tamperproof motorcycle alarm. I'd recommend
>the Spyball alarms I now routinely fit having lost 3 bikes to the
>jackals over the last eight years.
>
>The last one nicked had 4 locks (disk, heavy HT-steel chain,
>cable-lock between the wheels and a U-lock) and was chained to a
>trailer behind padlocked drive gates. They opened the "insurance
>quality" gate padlock simply by inserting a bar and twisting,
>then cut a slot in the trailer to slip out the chain. From there
>they physically lifted and carried the locked bike into a van,
>all without making a sound.
>
>riccip

If they're *that* determined then I doubt there's much that will stop
'em 'cept maybe buying an SR125.
--
-Pip

Pip Luscher wrote:
> On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 06:22:18 GMT, riccip <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
<snip bike security stuff>
>
> If they're *that* determined then I doubt there's much that will stop
> 'em 'cept maybe buying an SR125.

Unfortunately, even the humble SR125 would still be attractive to thieving
teenage scrotes.

After our TS was stolen for the second time (and recovered) we fitted a £40
alarm from Ebay, and bought a FOAD chain and lock.

So far, the scrotes have not re-attempted to steal it.

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My Bike 2000 Honda CB500
M'boy's Bike 1990 Suzuki TS50X (Heavily fortified)

BOTAFOT #140, DIAABTCOD #26

Oldbloke <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> After our TS was stolen for the second time (and recovered) we fitted a £40
> alarm from Ebay, and bought a FOAD chain and lock.

Good solution.

IMHO a bloody good lock is better than any alarm or immobiliser.


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The Older Gentleman wrote:
> Oldbloke <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> After our TS was stolen for the second time (and recovered) we
>> fitted a £40 alarm from Ebay, and bought a FOAD chain and lock.
>
> Good solution.
>
> IMHO a bloody good lock is better than any alarm or immobiliser.

Akkshirley you're prolly right, next time I think an FOAD lock, alarm
sticker and flashing LED will do the trick

--
Dan L (Oldbloke)
My Bike 2000 Honda CB500
M'boy's Bike 1990 Suzuki TS50X (Heavily fortified)

BOTAFOT #140, DIAABTCOD #26

On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 07:23:42 +0100, "Oldbloke"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Pip Luscher wrote:
>> On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 06:22:18 GMT, riccip <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
><snip bike security stuff>
>>
>> If they're *that* determined then I doubt there's much that will stop
>> 'em 'cept maybe buying an SR125.
>
>Unfortunately, even the humble SR125 would still be attractive to thieving
>teenage scrotes.
>

Oh yeah, for sure, but I doubt that they'd go to the trouble of
ripping open locks, cutting open a trailer, then lugging the
still-chained bike into a van if it were an SR125!
--
-Pip

Pip Luscher <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>If they're *that* determined then I doubt there's much that will stop
>'em 'cept maybe buying an SR125.

The best deterrent I could find was an Alsatian we named "Gazza"
coz he's mental. It was the first dog at the kennels to hurl
itself at the fence trying to reach my throat. He lurks outside
all year round waiting for jackal meat.

riccip

"Pip Luscher" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 06:22:18 GMT, riccip <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> ><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >
> >>Hello all have you any advise about bike security?
> >>What's a good lock, cant seem to find a proper Krypton U lock in the UK.
> >
> >More important than the lock is what you anchor it to. Ideally
> >you need a machine-proof ground anchor sitting in a couple of
> >cubic feet of concrete. Nothing less will do, even if it's inside
> >your garage. If you're parked away from home you must chain it to
> >a lamp post or something else not easily cut through. Also
> >install a dedicated, tamperproof motorcycle alarm. I'd recommend
> >the Spyball alarms I now routinely fit having lost 3 bikes to the
> >jackals over the last eight years.
> >
> >The last one nicked had 4 locks (disk, heavy HT-steel chain,
> >cable-lock between the wheels and a U-lock) and was chained to a
> >trailer behind padlocked drive gates. They opened the "insurance
> >quality" gate padlock simply by inserting a bar and twisting,
> >then cut a slot in the trailer to slip out the chain. From there
> >they physically lifted and carried the locked bike into a van,
> >all without making a sound.
> >
> >riccip
>
> If they're *that* determined then I doubt there's much that will stop
> 'em 'cept maybe buying an SR125.
> --
> -Pip

An alarm with an explosive device added, ok if they attempt to steal it,
bang goes your bike,which would have been lost anyway, but more importantly
at least one less bike rustler in circulation, to steal your new
replacement.
If only life was that simple!.

our local bike thief got dead. After a succession of scooters and Honda 50's
he nicked a CBR 600. He never got out of 2nd gear. chased my the coppers he
hit something.

The only bad thing was the poor buggers bike was written off,
and it said in the news "motorcyclist killed in police chase" should have
said 17 years old motorbike thief killed while stealing too powerful a
motorbike.