the cont known as Nigel Eaton says...
>Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, petrolcan
><(E-Mail Removed)> typed
>>the cont known as Nigel Eaton says...
>>>Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, petrolcan
>>><(E-Mail Removed)> typed
>>
>>>>>>With £20m in his hip pocket :-)
>>>>>
>>>>><G>
>>>>>
>>>>>Go and get the Hippo MOTd then. ;^)
>>>>
>>>>It's my new year resolution to do so.
>>>
>>>Good man. I'll take care of any necessary repairs (and re-taxing it in
>>>the unlikely event of a pass).
>>
>>It'll pass. Trust me.
>
><VBG> I likes yer style.


>>>I fully expect it to fail on something. You might want to give the
>>>stanchions a good wipe down just before entering the MOT estaminet...
>>
>>Fresh rag at the ready :-)
>
>Make it a clean one. We don't want to skimp on maintenance, do we?
>
>

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the cont known as Nigel Eaton says...
>Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, petrolcan
><(E-Mail Removed)> typed
>>the cont known as Nigel Eaton says...
>>>Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, petrolcan
>>><(E-Mail Removed)> typed
>>
>>>>>>With £20m in his hip pocket :-)
>>>>>
>>>>><G>
>>>>>
>>>>>Go and get the Hippo MOTd then. ;^)
>>>>
>>>>It's my new year resolution to do so.
>>>
>>>Good man. I'll take care of any necessary repairs (and re-taxing it in
>>>the unlikely event of a pass).
>>
>>It'll pass. Trust me.
>
><VBG> I likes yer style.

The glass is always half full.

>>>I fully expect it to fail on something. You might want to give the
>>>stanchions a good wipe down just before entering the MOT estaminet...
>>
>>Fresh rag at the ready :-)
>
>Make it a clean one. We don't want to skimp on maintenance, do we?

As if I would ever use anything dirty on dear ol' yellow.

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> Whatever braking force you add at the rear will be negated by the lack of
> grip. So long as the back wheel can lock, you don't really need anymore
> force. If it can't lock, then there's a serious problem with the brake,
> and you need to fix that before adding anything.
>
> IMHO.
>
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> "A tosser is a tosser, no matter what mode of transport they're using."


My rear brake does lock up and I do use is like you suggest
to aid balance. I was only wondering if it was possible to do,
only to share the loads of braking out a bit. No other reason.

Cheers
taz.

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That's exactly what I was thinking of.

Cheers taz.

taz composed the following ...
>> Whatever braking force you add at the rear will be negated by the lack of
>> grip. So long as the back wheel can lock, you don't really need anymore
>> force. If it can't lock, then there's a serious problem with the brake,
>> and you need to fix that before adding anything.
>>
>> IMHO.

> My rear brake does lock up and I do use is like you suggest
> to aid balance. I was only wondering if it was possible to do,
> only to share the loads of braking out a bit. No other reason.

In that case I'd guess it's possible, see 'petrolcan's' link, but I doubt
it'd work well, or 'share anything out' at all. In fact I don't think that
setup is actually meant to brake, other than in a show .. The amount of
contamination from the chain ring to the brake pads would render them
useless within a very short time.

Actually I don't really understand what you mean by 'sharing the loads of
braking' ... Whatever you do, the rear brake will never [1] slow you down
any more than the front, or even get close to matching the fronts level of
retardation. The front brake _always_ slows the bike more quickly than the
rear will and the front will _always_ have more load on it as a result of
weight transfer etc.

What bike is it for? and where do you ride?

[1] Assuming forward motion ...

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It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember petrolcan
<(E-Mail Removed)> saying something like:

>>>>(Actually, on reflection, I have seen a combined sprocket and disk. But
>>>>only on belt drives.)
>>>
>>>I posted a link earlier showing a chain sprocket.
>>
>>Well, yes. But you're Irish.
>
>With £20m in his hip pocket :-)

Did you get a cheque from that nice Mr Obangu?

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> In that case I'd guess it's possible, see 'petrolcan's' link, but I doubt
> it'd work well, or 'share anything out' at all. In fact I don't think
> that setup is actually meant to brake, other than in a show .. The amount
> of contamination from the chain ring to the brake pads would render them
> useless within a very short time.

Your right and I take your point. It was a general query as to
whether it would or could work and from the posts I have
received back, apart for show it seems unnecessary.

> Actually I don't really understand what you mean by 'sharing the loads of
> braking' ... Whatever you do, the rear brake will never [1] slow you down

By that I just meant sharing the load over two callipers and on both sides
of the wheel. Just more surface area contact thats all.

>any more than the front, or even get close to matching the fronts level of
>retardation. The front brake _always_ slows the bike more quickly than the
>rear will and the front will _always_ have more load on it as a result of
>weight transfer etc.

I own a Kawasaki KMX which is my main bike.

> What bike is it for? and where do you ride?

I use it all the time as a toy. I use it for short trips to the shops and
such.
I live near the country and use it for going up and down lanes and
in two or three very big deep quarries. Its the quarries bit that I was
inquiring after.

> [1] Assuming forward motion ...
>
> --
> Paul ...
> http://www.4x4prejudice.org/index.php
> (8(!) Homer Rules ...
> "A tosser is a tosser, no matter what mode of transport they're using."



Cheers taz.

>Whatever braking force you add at the rear will be negated by the lack of
>grip. So long as the back wheel can lock, you don't really need anymore
>force. If it can't lock, then there's a serious problem with the brake, and
>you need to fix that before adding anything.
>
>IMHO.

1oz of timing is worth 10 oz of brake =)



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