Hi,

Just heard you can upshift without using the clutch, does anyone do
this?

Tried on my Suzuki GS500, seems to work pretty good, will it cause any
damage?

Tried downshifts too, not so easy!

thanks

al

"alans220" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> Just heard you can upshift without using the clutch, does anyone do
> this?
>
> Tried on my Suzuki GS500, seems to work pretty good, will it cause any
> damage?
>
> Tried downshifts too, not so easy!

Try searching uk.rec.motorcycles (via Google groups) for 'clutchless'....

I'll save you the bother... http://tinyurl.com/kzbi

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On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 08:28:22 GMT, "Geribaldy"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Upshifts are a doddle and done right cause no harm to your gearbox.

Bottom posting is a doddle and done right will cause no concern to
residents of the newsgroup.

Really; it would be nice if you could ride on the same side of the
road as the rest of us and post your replies below the text you are
replying to, snipping sigs and irrelevant text as you go.

http://www.ukrm.net/faq/ukrmnetiquette.html

Cheers.

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On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 08:32:40 +0100, Champ <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 21:18:16 +0100, alans220 <(E-Mail Removed)>
>wrote:
>
>>Just heard you can upshift without using the clutch, does anyone do
>>this?
>
>Yes
>
>>Tried on my Suzuki GS500, seems to work pretty good, will it cause any
>>damage?
>
>Not if you do it right
>
>>Tried downshifts too, not so easy!
>
>This, however, will

As I said just a week or so ago [1] I've always felt that, as long as
you're not having to force the change, no harm should be done. If you
can do clutchless down-changes as smooth as up-changes, I don't see
any reason not to do so.



[1] Don't _any_ newbies think about looking at recent threads before
posting?

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Thank you for your opinion, and your sarcasm.

When I am replying to a bottom-posted reply, then I normally
bottom-post.Similarly when I reply to a top-posted reply, I will post at the
top.In this case I was replying to an OP and had no form to follow.Since I
prefer to read top-posted replies, I posted my reply at the top.

This is my preference.If you disagree and don't want to read any more of my
posts, please feel free to add me to your killfile.I promise I won't get
upset.



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On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 21:18:16 +0100, alans220 <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>Tried on my Suzuki GS500, seems to work pretty good, will it cause any
>damage?

Get it wrong enough times and yes, it will cause damage. You'll wear
the edges off the engagement dogs on the gear clusters. Whether you
want to face a workshop bill for rebuilding your gearbox is up to you,
or you might just pass on the gearbox to the next unsuspecting
mug/owner before it gives you any problems.

I take the view that clutches are fitted for a reason and 'tis folly
to not use them. But it's your gearbox, your money, you do what you
like.

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On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 11:46:37 GMT, "Geribaldy"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Thank you for your opinion, and your sarcasm.

By employing my considerable psychic powers, I divine that you are
replying to me. Had you left in an attribution line, or some of the
post to which you were replying, it would have been so much easier.
If you wish to infer sarcasm in my posting, then that is your
prerogative although there was none in it when it left here.
>
>When I am replying to a bottom-posted reply, then I normally
>bottom-post.Similarly when I reply to a top-posted reply, I will post at the
>top.In this case I was replying to an OP and had no form to follow.Since I
>prefer to read top-posted replies, I posted my reply at the top.

You show yourself to be remarkably ignorant of common courtesy, in
that case - or you simply choose to disregard it, which shows you in a
worse light still. The "form to follow" would have been immediately
apparent had you lurked a little or even skimmed the FAQ. Look here:
http://www.ukrm.net/faq/ukrmnetiquette.html
>
>This is my preference.If you disagree and don't want to read any more of my
>posts, please feel free to add me to your killfile.I promise I won't get
>upset.

You carry on with your preference, then. You will find this newsgroup
to be remarkably short of top-posted replies, however. My killfile
will not be the only one you will find yourself in should you continue
to top-post.

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"Geribaldy" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Thank you for your opinion, and your sarcasm.
>
> When I am replying to a bottom-posted reply, then I normally
> bottom-post.Similarly when I reply to a top-posted reply, I will post at
the
> top.In this case I was replying to an OP and had no form to follow.Since I
> prefer to read top-posted replies, I posted my reply at the top.
>
> This is my preference.If you disagree and don't want to read any more of
my
> posts, please feel free to add me to your killfile.I promise I won't get
> upset.
>

Well said.

"Geribaldy" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Thank you for your opinion, and your sarcasm.


*class*

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Geribaldy <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Since I
> prefer to read top-posted replies, I posted my reply at the top.

Wa-hey. Another **** climbs out of the gynaecological experimentation
tank.


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