On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 16:17:24 -0600, WW wrote:
> (Small town). Tester said I won't check to see how you get it here.
> The Test. Small parking lot, race across the lot towards tester
> and brake hard so I don't hit him. Passed test.
> How things have changed. ww

Hi WW,
Yes. Things have changed.

What happened is someone smelled money.

The test costs $250. That's something on the order of 10,000 riders a
year in California paying $250. Big bucks.

For that $250, you get to buy your license.

It's not any more complicated than that. Just as simple as your test,
except the tens of millions of dollars funneled into MSF coffers.

Even Arnold funneled his $250 into the MSF coffers (not that it will make
a dent in his net worth) ... but the point is that even he fell prey to
his own system. How ironic.

On Sep 16, 10:24*pm, JoeSchmoe <nospamjoesch...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>
> Interesting how you reacted to the proof that the MSF class in California
> is $250. You didn't admit you were wrong.

He wasn't. The prices in California vary depending on who's putting
on the class. The *maximum* charge can be $250, but many schools offer
the basic class for $150.

Don't you *ever* get tired of lying?

On Sep 16, 10:31*pm, JoeSchmoe <nospamjoesch...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>
> It's not any more complicated than that. Just as simple as your test,
> except the tens of millions of dollars funneled into MSF coffers.

As Tim pointed out very carefully -and repeatedly- the MSF doesn't get
*any* of the money. It goes to the individual schools/organizations
that teach the safety classes, and it just about covers their
expenses.

And you don't seem to understand that nobody is *ever* going to
respect the judgement of someone who spends all his time intentionally
lying.

On Sep 17, 1:19*am, JoeSchmoe <nospamjoesch...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Arnold isn't that proficient. He simply paid his $250 to the MSF

Except the MSF isn't charging California student riders to take the
course, the California Motorcyclist Safety Program, administered by
the California Highway Patrol, charges California student riders to
take the course. The money goes to the state of California to cover
the costs of administering the classes.

On Sep 17, 1:24*am, JoeSchmoe <nospamjoesch...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 04:09:54 -0700, Tim wrote:

> > You have not shown anything that indicates that the MSF is getting any
> > of that tuition money.
>
> Interesting how you reacted to the proof that the MSF class in California
> is $250.

Except the MSF isn't charging California student riders to take the
course, the California Motorcyclist Safety Program, administered by
the California Highway Patrol, charges California student riders to
take the course. The money goes to the state of California to cover
the costs of administering the classes.

> You didn't admit you were wrong.

Because the MSF isn't charging California student riders to take the
course, the California Motorcyclist Safety Program, administered by
the California Highway Patrol, charges California student riders to
take the course. The money goes to the state of California to cover
the costs of administering the classes.

> You merely found some other item to nit pick about.

It's not nitpicking to correct your completely bogus claim that the
MSF is running motorcycle training classes for profit in California.

> Interesting how your character shows.

Hey, I'm not the one who has been anonymously and publicly propagating
a lie for six years..

> the system is designed to funnel money into
> the MSF (and they more than double the price because they have a captive
> audience).

> The loser in all of this is the motorcyclist.
> The winner is the MSF (to the tune of tens of millions of dollars).

Except the MSF isn't charging California student riders to take the
course, the California Motorcyclist Safety Program, administered by
the California Highway Patrol, charges California student riders to
take the course. The money goes to the state of California to cover
the costs of administering the classes.

On Sep 17, 1:31*am, JoeSchmoe <nospamjoesch...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 16:17:24 -0600, WW wrote:
> > (Small town). Tester said I won't check to see how you get it here.
> > The Test. Small parking lot, race across the lot towards tester
> > and brake hard so I don't hit him. *Passed test.
> > How things have changed. ww
>
> Hi WW,
> Yes. Things have changed.
>
> What happened is someone smelled money.

> The test costs $250. That's something on the order of 10,000 riders a
> year in California paying $250. Big bucks.

The test does NOT cost $250 dollars. The California Motorcyclist
Safety Program's basic rider course costs $250.

> For that $250, you get to buy your license.

Except the MSF isn't charging California student riders to take the
course, the California Motorcyclist Safety Program, administered by
the California Highway Patrol, charges California student riders to
take the course. The money goes to the state of California to cover
the costs of administering the classes.

> It's not any more complicated than that. Just as simple as your test,
> except the tens of millions of dollars funneled into MSF coffers.

Except the MSF isn't charging California student riders to take the
course, the California Motorcyclist Safety Program, administered by
the California Highway Patrol, charges California student riders to
take the course. The money goes to the state of California to cover
the costs of administering the classes.

> Even Arnold funneled his $250 into the MSF coffers (not that it will make
> a dent in his net worth) ... but the point is that even he fell prey to
> his own system. How ironic.

Except the MSF isn't charging California student riders to take the
course, the California Motorcyclist Safety Program, administered by
the California Highway Patrol, charges California student riders to
take the course. The money goes to the state of California to cover
the costs of administering the classes.

Twitbull amused us with the following bit of irony:

> Don't you *ever* get tired of lying?

So whines the psychotic nut job who lies about peoples' deceased
mothers while hiding and cowering behind its killfile - and it
spews its **** brained lies only because it was challenged to
read, think, and defend its impossible 9-11 cartoon fairy tale.
twitbull, if nothing else, your cowardice, lies, hypocrisy, and
simple minded insanity do keep us slightly amused... ;-)



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On 9/16/2010 11:19 PM, JoeSchmoe wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 23:13:20 -0700, Twibil wrote:
>> Um, idiot, I took the test and passed it on the first try. I could see
>> the lines just fine, so *please* stop lying.
> If you had actually taken the test on a big-bore bike such as a K1200LT,
> there's absolutely no way you can see the lines under the wheels to know
> if you were straying outside of the 21' 9" lines.
>
> You shouldn't be looking there either.

Right - you shouldn't be looking there, you don't NEED to be looking
there, so the whole question of whether or not "you can see the lines
under the wheels" is irrelevant.

Find yourself a big ol' slab o' asphalt with an understanding owner.
Paint yourself a circle - whatever radius you feel comfortable
with - such that you have a 2' wide circular path. You think you
need to see what's under the wheels to stay within the paint?

Bob M.