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Salad Dodger
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      05-15-2011, 01:33 PM
I keep getting "no connection" messages, but it's all good when I
apply the default IT helpdesk solution.

It's a Netgear DG834G if that makes any difference.
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Cab
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      05-15-2011, 01:55 PM
On Sun, 15 May 2011 14:33:03 +0100, Salad Dodger wibbled:
> I keep getting "no connection" messages, but it's all good when I
> apply the default IT helpdesk solution.
>
> It's a Netgear DG834G if that makes any difference.


Well, I suppose so, yes. But the MTBF of a piece of electronics with no
moving parts will be a bloody long time in general.
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B 650
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      05-15-2011, 02:17 PM
On 15/05/2011 14:55, Cab wrote:
> On Sun, 15 May 2011 14:33:03 +0100, Salad Dodger wibbled:
>> I keep getting "no connection" messages, but it's all good when I
>> apply the default IT helpdesk solution.
>>
>> It's a Netgear DG834G if that makes any difference.

>
> Well, I suppose so, yes. But the MTBF of a piece of electronics with no
> moving parts will be a bloody long time in general.


Generally true, but sometimes there are manufacturing issues which bring
on failure quicker than one would normally expect. I had a Linksys
router a few years ago that failed after about 2 years, a bit of
googling suggested that many others had the same problem, with a number
of suggestions about poor heat dissipation causing failure of the
ethernet controller chip after 2 years or so.

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wessie
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      05-15-2011, 02:23 PM
Cab <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in news:7k25a8-(E-Mail Removed):

> On Sun, 15 May 2011 14:33:03 +0100, Salad Dodger wibbled:
>> I keep getting "no connection" messages, but it's all good when I
>> apply the default IT helpdesk solution.
>>
>> It's a Netgear DG834G if that makes any difference.

>


Is it getting very hot when it locks up? I find sitting routers on the
narrow end allows better heat dissipation. Be* provide a little plastic
foot to do this with their Thomson Bebox.

The other thing is your phone line quality. I had annoying reconnections
when I first transferred to Be*'s LLU. The BT phone line between me & the
exchange was the root cause, but BT didn't do anything about it until I
complained about the noise on the voice line.

> Well, I suppose so, yes. But the MTBF of a piece of electronics with no
> moving parts will be a bloody long time in general.


You'd think so, wouldn't you. However, my tiny little empire in Xerox, well
more of a parish, processed shedloads of returned printed circuits to
upgrade them due to dodgy components. Batches of poorly made capacitors
were favourite.

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Chris Bartram
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      05-15-2011, 04:10 PM
On 15/05/11 14:33, Salad Dodger wrote:
> I keep getting "no connection" messages, but it's all good when I
> apply the default IT helpdesk solution.
>
> It's a Netgear DG834G if that makes any difference.

Not really wear out, but the electrolytic capacitors can fail. This will
make it lock up more and more, and eventually fail. Sometimes the PSU
brick will get hot as it tries to cope with the extra leakage current.

I found a DG824 doing just this:

http://www.piglet-net.net/pigblog/?p=702
 
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      05-15-2011, 04:19 PM
Salad Dodger ((E-Mail Removed)) wrote:
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> I keep getting "no connection" messages, but it's all good when I
> apply the default IT helpdesk solution.
>
> It's a Netgear DG834G if that makes any difference.


I had a DG834N that eventually started locking up and needed to be left
unplugged for ten minutes or so before it'd reboot.

They do seem to wear out, so to speak. I replaced mine with a dirt cheap
TP-Link and it's turned out to be streets ahead of the Netgear in every
way. Slight quirk with the routing table but other than that absolutely
faultless.

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      05-15-2011, 04:43 PM
ogden <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
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> Salad Dodger ((E-Mail Removed)) wrote:
>>
>> I keep getting "no connection" messages, but it's all good when I
>> apply the default IT helpdesk solution.
>>
>> It's a Netgear DG834G if that makes any difference.

>
> I had a DG834N that eventually started locking up and needed to be left
> unplugged for ten minutes or so before it'd reboot.
>
> They do seem to wear out, so to speak. I replaced mine with a dirt cheap
> TP-Link and it's turned out to be streets ahead of the Netgear in every
> way. Slight quirk with the routing table but other than that absolutely
> faultless.
>


you on Be* still? Did you try the Bebox or dismiss it? I'm surprised,
despite it being Thomson, that it seems to work reasonably well. It's
worked with all my kit & all visitors have connected to it with various
wifi devices.

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      05-15-2011, 04:45 PM
wessie ((E-Mail Removed)) wrote:
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> ogden <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
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> > Salad Dodger ((E-Mail Removed)) wrote:
> >>
> >> I keep getting "no connection" messages, but it's all good when I
> >> apply the default IT helpdesk solution.
> >>
> >> It's a Netgear DG834G if that makes any difference.

> >
> > I had a DG834N that eventually started locking up and needed to be left
> > unplugged for ten minutes or so before it'd reboot.
> >
> > They do seem to wear out, so to speak. I replaced mine with a dirt cheap
> > TP-Link and it's turned out to be streets ahead of the Netgear in every
> > way. Slight quirk with the routing table but other than that absolutely
> > faultless.
> >

>
> you on Be* still? Did you try the Bebox or dismiss it?


I've got it as a spare. Won't throw it away as they reckon they want it
back if ever I leave. It's alright, but not brilliant, which pretty much
sums up Thomson/Speedtouch devices all over.

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      05-15-2011, 04:50 PM
On Sun, 15 May 2011 15:17:08 +0100, B 650 wibbled:
> On 15/05/2011 14:55, Cab wrote:
>> On Sun, 15 May 2011 14:33:03 +0100, Salad Dodger wibbled:
>>> I keep getting "no connection" messages, but it's all good when I
>>> apply the default IT helpdesk solution.
>>>
>>> It's a Netgear DG834G if that makes any difference.

>>
>> Well, I suppose so, yes. But the MTBF of a piece of electronics with no
>> moving parts will be a bloody long time in general.

>
> Generally true, but sometimes there are manufacturing issues which bring
> on failure quicker than one would normally expect. I had a Linksys
> router a few years ago that failed after about 2 years, a bit of
> googling suggested that many others had the same problem, with a number
> of suggestions about poor heat dissipation causing failure of the
> ethernet controller chip after 2 years or so.
>


I suppose I should have said usual caveats apply.

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      05-16-2011, 09:49 AM
On Sun, 15 May 2011 14:33:03 +0100 in uk.rec.motorcycles, Salad Dodger
says:

>I keep getting "no connection" messages, but it's all good when I
>apply the default IT helpdesk solution.
>
>It's a Netgear DG834G if that makes any difference.


It seems that pretty much every router I've had from various
manufacturers has packed in after around a year of continuous use. A
power cycle usually restores everything until the next time,
unfortunately the next times get closer and closer together until it's
a daily occurrence or worse.

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