Managed to drop the bike this morning for the first time - embarrassingly at
about 7 mph in our icerink work carpark when a woman stepped out from behind
a van on a corner. I thought at the time I'd mostly damaged my ego and bent
the indicators (quick tchwack and that was sorted)

However the gears have been playing up on the way back. It keeps sliping
back into neutral, especially if I change gears quickly. 2nd seems most
affected if that could be relevant - it can slip out while just driving
along while 1st and 3rd don't?

I'm guessing something in the gearbox needs tightening up - or is it worse?
Any recommendations from old hands on these matters?

Oh yeah - it dropped on the left.

Robert

Robert Irwin wrote
>Managed to drop the bike this morning for the first time

Commiserations dude but don't say we didn't warn you.


> - embarrassingly

Yeah, every ****ing time. Tinted visors are handy if you intend to make
a habit of it, no **** can see the blushes.



--
steve auvache
11 wheels if you count the spare.

Robert Irwin <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Managed to drop the bike this morning for the first time - embarrassingly at
> about 7 mph in our icerink work carpark when a woman stepped out from behind
> a van on a corner. I thought at the time I'd mostly damaged my ego and bent
> the indicators (quick tchwack and that was sorted)
>
> However the gears have been playing up on the way back. It keeps sliping
> back into neutral, especially if I change gears quickly. 2nd seems most
> affected if that could be relevant - it can slip out while just driving
> along while 1st and 3rd don't?
>
> I'm guessing something in the gearbox needs tightening up - or is it worse?
> Any recommendations from old hands on these matters?
>
> Oh yeah - it dropped on the left.
>
You've probably just bent the gear lever. Hit it with a hammer and bend
it straight.

If you're *really* unlucky you've damaged the selector.


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On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 18:37:08 -0000, "Robert Irwin"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Managed to drop the bike this morning for the first time - embarrassingly at
>about 7 mph in our icerink work carpark when a woman stepped out from behind
>a van on a corner. I thought at the time I'd mostly damaged my ego and bent
>the indicators (quick tchwack and that was sorted)
>
>However the gears have been playing up on the way back. It keeps sliping
>back into neutral, especially if I change gears quickly. 2nd seems most
>affected if that could be relevant - it can slip out while just driving
>along while 1st and 3rd don't?

Umm. make sure the gearlever isn't fouling the engine casing - this
can wear out the selector forks and cause sticky changes too.

Did the clutch lever survive OK and is it in adjustment?

See also if the gearlever shaft is straight - it might be stiff if
it's bent, which might cause problems. They're pretty robust, though.

It's possible that you've done what I did on my DT, which was to snap
off the post that acts as both an anchor for the gearlever return
spring and as a limiter for the gearlever movement. This is in the
clutch housing on the RHS of the engine. Not advisable for it to be
left floating around if that's what's wrong. Trust me on this.

You don't need to drain the oil to get at this, just lay the bike on
its left side. Make sure no crap falls in if you do this. IIRC it has
a locknut and may be accessible without removing the clutch but I'm
not sure.

If that's broken then it won't be difficult to repair or bodge with a
modified bolt or studding.

--
-Pip

OMF# 14

> Umm. make sure the gearlever isn't fouling the engine casing - this
> can wear out the selector forks and cause sticky changes too.
>
> Did the clutch lever survive OK and is it in adjustment?
>
> See also if the gearlever shaft is straight - it might be stiff if
> it's bent, which might cause problems. They're pretty robust, though.
>
> It's possible that you've done what I did on my DT, which was to snap
> off the post that acts as both an anchor for the gearlever return
> spring and as a limiter for the gearlever movement. This is in the
> clutch housing on the RHS of the engine. Not advisable for it to be
> left floating around if that's what's wrong. Trust me on this.
>
> You don't need to drain the oil to get at this, just lay the bike on
> its left side. Make sure no crap falls in if you do this. IIRC it has
> a locknut and may be accessible without removing the clutch but I'm
> not sure.
>
> If that's broken then it won't be difficult to repair or bodge with a
> modified bolt or studding.
>
> --
> -Pip
>
> OMF# 14



The bit about the post which acts as a limiter 'feels' liek the culprit now
you say it - the clutch lever has a lot more travel in it than usual when I
think about it.

I won't really have achance to look properly till Saturday, but the gear
lever survived and on very superficial inspection looks straightish (the
footrest on the other hand is pointing up by 30 degrees at the mo - hammer
job for Saturday.

Is this kind of thing (dropping bikes) a regular occurence in biking or is
it just me being a lemon?

Many thanks

Robert

On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 21:27:25 -0000, "Robert Irwin"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Is this kind of thing (dropping bikes) a regular occurence in biking or is
>it just me being a lemon?

It happens.

--
-Pip

OMF# 14

Pip Luscher wrote:

> On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 21:27:25 -0000, "Robert Irwin"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> > Is this kind of thing (dropping bikes) a regular occurence in
> > biking or is it just me being a lemon?
>
> It happens.

To us all, sooner or later. Try to get it out of your system before
you buy one that's shiny or has plastics on.

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BOMB#15 "But..he looks so *innocent*" HYPO#2
Full throttle for 55 minutes - a hell of a buzz.

On 24 Nov 2005 23:33:12 GMT, Ferger <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Robert Irwin secured a place in history by writing:
>
>> Is this kind of thing (dropping bikes) a regular occurence in biking
>> or is it just me being a lemon?
>
>I've dropped every bike I've ever owned, except this one.

<thinks>

I think there were a couple that were never dropped. Oddly, these were
the only two kawasakis[1] I've had. Make of that what you will.

[1] GPz550 and gpx600.

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Ace said...
> On 24 Nov 2005 23:33:12 GMT, Ferger <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> >Robert Irwin secured a place in history by writing:
> >
> >> Is this kind of thing (dropping bikes) a regular occurence in biking
> >> or is it just me being a lemon?
> >
> >I've dropped every bike I've ever owned, except this one.
>
> <thinks>
>
> I think there were a couple that were never dropped. Oddly, these were
> the only two kawasakis[1] I've had. Make of that what you will.
>
> [1] GPz550 and gpx600.

<Touches wood>

In the last 15 years I've only dropped three bikes that can be
attributed to my own ****wittedness. Firstly my brand new Firestorm that
went down on diesel a mile after I picked it up new, next was my 350LC
when I ran out of room wheelying across a car park, and the last was the
Thunderace that I dropped twice while turning round at very low speed.

I've had other accidents, but they weren't my fault. The most notable
was the time my daughter's NC30 was written off by a plumber's van when
I was borrowing it.

--
Lozzo
GSX-R1000 K1

Robert Irwin wrote:
>
> Is this kind of thing (dropping bikes) a regular occurence in biking or is
> it just me being a lemon?

If God didn't want bikes to be dropped he'd have given them three wheels
or given me stronger legs and quicker reactions.

--
Mike H
R1100RS