Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
> We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
> drugs began to take hold. I remember Ace <(E-Mail Removed)> saying
> something like:
>
>>> What, listening to an argument, taking it on board, and changing
>>> their minds you mean?
>>>
>>> I've never seen what's so bad about that, TBH.
>>
>> Likewise. Sadly it's far too often seen as a sign of weakness, in
>> business as in politics.
>
> Hah. Don't kid yourself that the Tories would listen to any objections
> if they weren't in a coalition. Unfettered, they'd impose another
> round of Thatcherite shite on the country and sell off everything
> that's left, while screwing the underclasses to the wall as their
> City mates waltzed off with the profits.

<curious>
Do you run any of your vehicles on paraffin?

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In the referenced article, "Hog." <(E-Mail Removed)> writes:
>Ace wrote:
>> On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 14:43:27 +0100, "Hog."
>> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>>> M J Carley wrote:
>>
>>>> I think you mean `pushing their luck up to the point where the
>>>> opposition to their nasty mean-minded policies becomes too great.'
>>>
>>> Cor that's bitter & twisted
>>
>> Didn't you see the poster's name?
>
>Decent chap but Pinko apparatchik.

Of which apparat am I part?

>I thought nasty mean policies were de rigueur in their world.

The Tories of both parties are trying to dismantle the post-1945
settlement by wrecking the NHS, public education and any sense of
public services. That is nasty and mean-minded: consider, for example,
saving 13 million but cutting scheme to give books to young
children. The way they are doing it is by going all out for what they
want, and then backing off slightly when they hit resistance.
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Qualcuno era comunista perché lo Stato peggio che da noi solo l'Uganda.

Michael Carley: http://people.bath.ac.uk/ensmjc/

On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 16:33:44 +0100, "Hog."
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
>> We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
>> drugs began to take hold. I remember Ace <(E-Mail Removed)> saying
>> something like:
>>
>>>> What, listening to an argument, taking it on board, and changing
>>>> their minds you mean?
>>>>
>>>> I've never seen what's so bad about that, TBH.
>>>
>>> Likewise. Sadly it's far too often seen as a sign of weakness, in
>>> business as in politics.
>>
>> Hah. Don't kid yourself that the Tories would listen to any objections
>> if they weren't in a coalition. Unfettered, they'd impose another
>> round of Thatcherite shite on the country and sell off everything
>> that's left, while screwing the underclasses to the wall as their
>> City mates waltzed off with the profits.
>
><curious>
>Do you run any of your vehicles on paraffin?

The pink stuff, you mean?

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, M J Carley
<(E-Mail Removed)> typed
>In the referenced article, (E-Mail Removed) writes:
>>Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Pip
>><(E-Mail Removed)> typed
>>>In article <97323a45-e5f7-4156-9e7d-d7a5940e1db2
>>>@dr5g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>, Stephen says...
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 9, 8:57*pm, Paul Corfield <aoo...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > All of which goes to show the parlous state of uk politics. It's just
>>>> > bloody depressing - an incompetent, hopeless government and a clueless
>>>> > directionless opposition.
>>>>
>>>> A much better government than the previous ****ing farce.
>>>
>>>They're great at U-turns, I'll give you that.
>>
>>What, listening to an argument, taking it on board, and changing their
>>minds you mean?
>
>I think you mean `pushing their luck up to the point where the
>opposition to their nasty mean-minded policies becomes too great.'

No. I meant what I typed.

That's why I typed it.

HTH.

--
Wicked Uncle Nigel - "He's hopeless, but he's honest"

Contains moderate bullshit and simulated opinions.

Ace wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 16:33:44 +0100, "Hog."
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
>>> We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when
>>> the drugs began to take hold. I remember Ace <(E-Mail Removed)>
>>> saying something like:
>>>
>>>>> What, listening to an argument, taking it on board, and changing
>>>>> their minds you mean?
>>>>>
>>>>> I've never seen what's so bad about that, TBH.
>>>>
>>>> Likewise. Sadly it's far too often seen as a sign of weakness, in
>>>> business as in politics.
>>>
>>> Hah. Don't kid yourself that the Tories would listen to any
>>> objections if they weren't in a coalition. Unfettered, they'd
>>> impose another round of Thatcherite shite on the country and sell
>>> off everything that's left, while screwing the underclasses to the
>>> wall as their City mates waltzed off with the profits.
>>
>> <curious>
>> Do you run any of your vehicles on paraffin?
>
> The pink stuff, you mean?

Snort

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Hog

M J Carley wrote:
> In the referenced article, "Hog." <(E-Mail Removed)>
> writes:
>> Ace wrote:
>>> On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 14:43:27 +0100, "Hog."
>>> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>
>>>> M J Carley wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I think you mean `pushing their luck up to the point where the
>>>>> opposition to their nasty mean-minded policies becomes too great.'
>>>>
>>>> Cor that's bitter & twisted
>>>
>>> Didn't you see the poster's name?
>>
>> Decent chap but Pinko apparatchik.
>
> Of which apparat am I part?

I expect it's a secret

>> I thought nasty mean policies were de rigueur in their world.
>
> The Tories of both parties are trying to dismantle the post-1945
> settlement by wrecking the NHS

OK if you believe that your a raging loon or you have been listening to
people who may be. Nothing in the Bill under review meets that definition
and I can assure you the NHS needs *radical* surgery.

> public education and any sense of

I do think the Education side of things in terms of Grants could be better
done. It's on the right track but clumsy and badly communicated.

> public services. That is nasty and mean-minded: consider, for example,
> saving 13 million but cutting scheme to give books to young
> children. The way they are doing it is by going all out for what they
> want, and then backing off slightly when they hit resistance.

Parents exist to buy their children what they need. It's all part of the
Great Mistake to think that the Govmint will/should provide.

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Hog

(E-Mail Removed) (M J Carley) wrote in news:(E-Mail Removed):

> In the referenced article, "Hog." <(E-Mail Removed)> writes:
>>Ace wrote:
>>> On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 14:43:27 +0100, "Hog."
>>> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>
>>>> M J Carley wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I think you mean `pushing their luck up to the point where the
>>>>> opposition to their nasty mean-minded policies becomes too great.'
>>>>
>>>> Cor that's bitter & twisted
>>>
>>> Didn't you see the poster's name?
>>
>>Decent chap but Pinko apparatchik.
>
> Of which apparat am I part?
>
>>I thought nasty mean policies were de rigueur in their world.
>
> The Tories of both parties are trying to dismantle the post-1945
> settlement by wrecking the NHS, public education and any sense of
> public services. That is nasty and mean-minded: consider, for example,
> saving 13 million but cutting scheme to give books to young
> children. The way they are doing it is by going all out for what they
> want, and then backing off slightly when they hit resistance.

The one that amused me is the moral panic over parenting that is leading to
the sexualisation of young children, whilst at the same time they are
cutting back funding for Sure Start, a programme that teaches young parents
the skills their own parents/education failed to nurture.

Utter ****wits. They couldn't join the dots on this Netmums shitting
caterpillar http://l.nmimg.net/images/dots_one.jpg

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BMW R1150GS

wessie wrote:
> (E-Mail Removed) (M J Carley) wrote in
> news:(E-Mail Removed):
>
>> In the referenced article, "Hog." <(E-Mail Removed)>
>> writes:
>>> Ace wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 14:43:27 +0100, "Hog."
>>>> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> M J Carley wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> I think you mean `pushing their luck up to the point where the
>>>>>> opposition to their nasty mean-minded policies becomes too
>>>>>> great.'
>>>>>
>>>>> Cor that's bitter & twisted
>>>>
>>>> Didn't you see the poster's name?
>>>
>>> Decent chap but Pinko apparatchik.
>>
>> Of which apparat am I part?
>>
>>> I thought nasty mean policies were de rigueur in their world.
>>
>> The Tories of both parties are trying to dismantle the post-1945
>> settlement by wrecking the NHS, public education and any sense of
>> public services. That is nasty and mean-minded: consider, for
>> example, saving 13 million but cutting scheme to give books to young
>> children. The way they are doing it is by going all out for what they
>> want, and then backing off slightly when they hit resistance.
>
> The one that amused me is the moral panic over parenting that is
> leading to the sexualisation of young children, whilst at the same
> time they are cutting back funding for Sure Start, a programme that
> teaches young parents the skills their own parents/education failed
> to nurture.
>
> Utter ****wits. They couldn't join the dots on this Netmums shitting
> caterpillar http://l.nmimg.net/images/dots_one.jpg

It isn't the job of a government to educate people to be parents!

It may be their job to sterilize those who (1) are unfit to breed.

(1) I may need to sit in judgement

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Hog

"Hog." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
news:4df24f45$0$2539$(E-Mail Removed):

> It isn't the job of a government to educate people to be parents!
>
> It may be their job to sterilize those who (1) are unfit to breed.
>
> (1) I may need to sit in judgement
>

GFY

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BMW R1150GS

wessie wrote:
> "Hog." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> news:4df24f45$0$2539$(E-Mail Removed):
>
>> It isn't the job of a government to educate people to be parents!
>>
>> It may be their job to sterilize those who (1) are unfit to breed.
>>
>> (1) I may need to sit in judgement
>>
>
> GFY

That's no way to get my permi^H^H^H^****, too late

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Hog