On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 10:45:10 GMT, "George W Frost"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>
>"Andrew" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:eCnkn.11483$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 06:11:28 +0000, Kevin Gleeson wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 04:14:14 GMT, "George W Frost"
>>> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>>Why is it called the second hand when in fact it is the third hand?
>>>
>>> I know that was a rhetorical tongue in cheek question, but it also made
>>> me wonder why the duplication of the word "second". Had a bit of a poke
>>> around but couldn't find the roots of the word.
>>>
>>> It's got me intrigued now as if you think about it from historical
>>> terms, the most obvious one would start with day, then would head out in
>>> two directions from there. One towards seasons and years and the other
>>> inwards towards hours, then minutes, then seconds. So it should be
>>> fourths.
>>>
>>> I tried finding some latin roots (secundus?) but nothing seems to
>>> explain why it coincides with the 2nd bit of something.
>>>
>>> Ideas anyone?
>>>
>>> Kev
>>
>> Probably helps to have studied Latin. To come *second*, to be *second*
>> best, to sell damaged goods as *seconds* and so on, along with a second
>> in a duel etc. all stem from the Latin 'secundus' meaning following,
>> next, second, etc., and it's the male form. The sixtieth part of a minute
>> in time = a sixtieth part of a minute in angular measure = second,
>> derived from thge Latin 'secunda' which is the feminine form, used like
>> 'secunda minuta' (second minute).
>>
>> So girls are more accurate and boys follow.
>>
>> Strangely, a *second* in music derives from secundus,not secunda.
>>
>> --
>> Regards
>>
>> Andrew
>
>I wouldn't like to come second in a duel

You'd be sliced into 60 bits apparently.

On Mar 7, 1:23*pm, Kevin Gleeson <kevinglee...@imagine-it.com.au>
wrote:
>. Mind you, who knows with the
> English language? Which witch is which?

You make a fatal mistake when you look for consistency and logic in
the English language.

JL

Andrew wrote:

<snip>

> Probably helps to have studied Latin. To come *second*, to be *second*
> best, to sell damaged goods as *seconds* and so on, along with a second
> in a duel etc. all stem from the Latin 'secundus' meaning following,
> next, second, etc., and it's the male form. The sixtieth part of a minute
> in time = a sixtieth part of a minute in angular measure = second,
> derived from thge Latin 'secunda' which is the feminine form, used like
> 'secunda minuta' (second minute).
>
> So girls are more accurate and boys follow.
>
> Strangely, a *second* in music derives from secundus,not secunda.
>

Why does this remind me of Denis Norden?

regards,
CrazyCam

On Mar 6, 12:14*pm, "George W Frost" <georgewfr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "theo" <theodo...@bigpond.com.au> wrote in message

>> On Wednesday this week I noticed that my watch showed that is was Feb
>> 31. That level of time error seems to happen every couple of months. I
>> haven't checked the actual time on my watch against anything since I
>> bought it last August. I used to work with a bloke whose watch lost
>> its minute hand. He didn't care. The hour hand told him all the time
>> he needed.

> Why is it called the second hand when in fact it is the third hand?

As it is the centre driven or top hand, why would it not be the first
hand? And it it still the second hand if you bought it new?

Theo

On Mar 6, 6:45*pm, "George W Frost" <georgewfr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I wouldn't like to come second in a duel

Better than being one of the participants.

Theo

On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 21:35:08 -0800 (PST), JL <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>On Mar 7, 1:23*pm, Kevin Gleeson <kevinglee...@imagine-it.com.au>
>wrote:
>>. Mind you, who knows with the
>> English language? Which witch is which?
>
>You make a fatal mistake when you look for consistency and logic in
>the English language.

Well, yeah that was my point. But I still am intrigued as to how that
word came into being.

theo wrote:
>
> On Mar 4, 11:31?am, "George W Frost" <georgewfr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I wanna watch
> >
> > and not a Timex either- Hide quoted text -
>
> Timex never made watches, they made clocks.
>
> Theo
>
>

Nope. They made millions of watches too - & sold them in the UK with the
irritating but memorable 'Tickatick Timex' jingle.

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theo wrote:
>
> On Mar 5, 10:24?am, "George W Frost" <georgewfr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > "theo" <theodo...@bigpond.com.au> wrote in message
> >
> > news:56e1e020-f729-4991-a278-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > On Mar 4, 11:31 am, "George W Frost" <georgewfr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I wanna watch
> >
> > > and not a Timex either- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > Timex never made watches, they made clocks.
>
> > Maybe not in Holland, but ?I have a Timex watch in the drawer
>
> Timex were different to other watch makers in that they used a clock
> movement rather than a watch movement in their wrist-worn timepieces.
> This is why they were cheap and didn't last very long, or keep good
> time.
>
> Theo
> I had a Timex once, once was enough.
>
>

Aha! Sorry, I should have read on.

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Diogenes wrote:
> On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 17:58:28 +1100, G-S <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> Diogenes wrote:
>>> On Wed, 3 Mar 2010 22:32:12 +1100, "bikerbetty"
>>> <bikerbettyatgmaildotcom> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> I <heart> Gerry.
>>> (((((hug)))))
>>>
>>>> betty (beer Gerry?)
>>> Don't mind if I do. Thanks.
>>>
>>> If that guy wasn't a troll I will stick my tongue down Knobdribble's
>>> throat.
>
>> You've been looking for an excuse to do that for ages though!
>
> Shhhhhh... I invited him to join us on the OzMoto Gay Pride float at
> the Mardy Gras, but he didn't return my emails. The theme was Real
> Men Ride Pink Posties.
>
> You should have seen us with our skimpy leathers... There was Nev,
> Marty, Atec77, Theo, Kev, and a few others whose throats I didn't
> sample... The night was a HOOT, man... Ya shoulda been there, Geoff.
>
>
> =================
>
> Onya bike
>
> Gerry

I wanted to go... really I did.

But my skimpy leathers must have shrunk!


G-S

JohnO wrote:
> On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 13:09:16 +1100, G-S <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> Diogenes wrote:
>>> On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 17:58:28 +1100, G-S <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Diogenes wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 3 Mar 2010 22:32:12 +1100, "bikerbetty"
>>>>> <bikerbettyatgmaildotcom> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I <heart> Gerry.
>>>>> (((((hug)))))
>>>>>
>>>>>> betty (beer Gerry?)
>>>>> Don't mind if I do. Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> If that guy wasn't a troll I will stick my tongue down Knobdribble's
>>>>> throat.
>>>> You've been looking for an excuse to do that for ages though!
>>> Shhhhhh... I invited him to join us on the OzMoto Gay Pride float at
>>> the Mardy Gras, but he didn't return my emails. The theme was Real
>>> Men Ride Pink Posties.
>>>
>>> You should have seen us with our skimpy leathers... There was Nev,
>>> Marty, Atec77, Theo, Kev, and a few others whose throats I didn't
>>> sample... The night was a HOOT, man... Ya shoulda been there, Geoff.
>>>
>>>
>>> =================
>>>
>>> Onya bike
>>>
>>> Gerry
>> I wanted to go... really I did.
>>
>> But my skimpy leathers must have shrunk!
>>
>>
>> G-S
>
> Beer does that to leather.
>
> JohnO
>
> Beer?
>

Sure, just don't spill any more on my leathers.

G-S