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Pip Luscher
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      01-23-2010, 06:00 PM
On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 17:15:49 +0000, (E-Mail Removed)
(The Older Gentleman) wrote:

>And damn me, the ticking seemed louder when I restarted it. Much
>head-scratching and the odd swear-word.
>
>It's sorted now: source of the noise traced. A virtual pint to anyone
>who can guess what it was. A new one on me, certainly.


Err, decompressor not fully disengaging?

I've also had ticking from a valve not closing properly - the tick
actualy came from the exhaust. But that was a misplaced shim and I
guess the GN is screw 'n' locknut, so can't be that.

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      01-23-2010, 06:00 PM
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> It's sorted now: source of the noise traced. A virtual pint to anyone
> who can guess what it was. A new one on me, certainly.


No-eyed deer. Four strokes are a mystery to me. I used to change
the shims on the GS550B, and tweak the cam-chain tensioner, but that's
about the limit of my technical experience.

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      01-23-2010, 06:03 PM
Pip Luscher <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 17:15:49 +0000, (E-Mail Removed)
> (The Older Gentleman) wrote:
>
> >And damn me, the ticking seemed louder when I restarted it. Much
> >head-scratching and the odd swear-word.
> >
> >It's sorted now: source of the noise traced. A virtual pint to anyone
> >who can guess what it was. A new one on me, certainly.

>
> Err, decompressor not fully disengaging?


Don't think it has one, actually.
>
> I've also had ticking from a valve not closing properly - the tick
> actualy came from the exhaust. But that was a misplaced shim and I
> guess the GN is screw 'n' locknut, so can't be that.


Screw & locknut it is. The clue was in the word 'tappets'.


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      01-23-2010, 06:05 PM
On 23 Jan, 18:03, totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk (The Older Gentleman)
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> Pip Luscher <plusc...@live.invalid.co.uk> wrote:
> > On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 17:15:49 +0000, totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk
> > (The Older Gentleman) wrote:

>
> > >And damn me, the ticking seemed louder when I restarted it. Much
> > >head-scratching and the odd swear-word.

>
> > >It's sorted now: source of the noise traced. A virtual pint to anyone
> > >who can guess what it was. A new one on me, certainly.

>
> > Err, decompressor not fully disengaging?

>
> Don't think it has one, actually.
>
>
>
> > I've also had ticking from a valve not closing properly - the tick
> > actualy came from the exhaust. But that was a misplaced shim and I
> > guess the GN is screw 'n' locknut, so can't be that.

>
> Screw & locknut it is. The clue was in the word 'tappets'.


Locknut had vibrated itself off the screw.

<Looks at GSX behemoth>

DAMHIK, IJD OK.

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      01-23-2010, 06:08 PM
The Older Gentleman wrote:

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> It's sorted now: source of the noise traced. A virtual pint to anyone
> who can guess what it was. A new one on me, certainly.
>
>


hmmm.

You've fixed it quite quickly so I guess nothing drastic. I was thinking
exhaust, head gasket or rattling carb slide.

Summat loose.

Give up.

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      01-23-2010, 06:17 PM
The Older Gentleman wrote:

> It's sorted now: source of the noise traced. A virtual pint to anyone
> who can guess what it was. A new one on me, certainly.


Someone had fixed a playing card to the camchain with a clothes peg?

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      01-23-2010, 06:18 PM
JackH <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Locknut had vibrated itself off the screw.


Nope. That in itself doesn't make the noise (er, unles it falls into
something crucial), but the opening out tappet certainly does. Had it
happen to me, too, once.


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      01-23-2010, 06:18 PM
Simon Wilson <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> The Older Gentleman wrote:
>
> >
> > It's sorted now: source of the noise traced. A virtual pint to anyone
> > who can guess what it was. A new one on me, certainly.
> >
> >

>
> hmmm.
>
> You've fixed it quite quickly so I guess nothing drastic. I was thinking
> exhaust, head gasket or rattling carb slide.
>
> Summat loose.
>
> Give up.


Tacho cable/drive.

I noticed that the shrink-wrapping, round the end of the tacho cable at
the cylinder head, had ridden up slightly, and so decided to push it
down to prevent any ingress of dirt and crap, and as I touched the cable
the noise stopped.

Huh? HUH???

I waggled the cable this way and that slightly and the ticking started
or stopped according to where the cable was sitting.

So I guess there's a fraction of play in the worm drive to the cable.
Anyway, that's it.

Like I said, a completely new one on me. I was certain it was a loose
tappet. It sounded identical.

Even after nearly 35 years of faffing with bikes, every day's a
schoolday.


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      01-23-2010, 06:25 PM
The Older Gentleman <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Tacho cable/drive.


I thought that may be involved, but thought it was so bizarre and
ridiculous, I risked looking a bit foolish if posted....
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      01-23-2010, 06:33 PM
SteveH <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> I risked looking a bit foolish if posted....


It's never stopped you before ;-)


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