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Pete Fisher
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      02-10-2011, 09:50 AM
In communiqué <(E-Mail Removed)>, SIRPip
<(E-Mail Removed)> cast forth these pearls of wisdom
>The Older Gentleman wrote:
>
>> Pete Fisher <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>> > The Morini has an adjustable hydraulic steering damper (not that it
>> > really needs one on the road) of what used to be called Kawasaki
>> > style. The damping is fine, but the bush that has a bolt through
>> > it to attach to the bottom yoke has a rather perished rubber bush
>> > with a loose steel sleeve. A bit like a small version of a twin
>> > shock top or bottom mounting, but only a 5mm bolt (I think). Can't
>> > find anything suitable by Googling. Any ideas on replacement. It
>> > seems silly to have to get a new complete damper (even if the
>> > correct type is still available), and in any case its functional
>> > but well used appearance add to the 'patina'.
>> >
>> > Very, very close to complete now. I might take a photo tomorrow.

>>
>> I reckon I might have something. Post the pic and let's see.

>
>Ditto, in my big box of bits (rubber section).
>
>If I don't, I know a motor factor who prolly has.
>


OK, photos, up to my usual standard.
The damper:
http://www.ps-fisher.demon.co.uk/pickchurs/Damper.jpg
The bush:
http://www.ps-fisher.demon.co.uk/pic...amper_bush.jpg

The rubber bit goes in an eye with an ID of 15mm and the steel sleeve
has an OD of 11mm.

Looking at it carefully I reckon the eye may screw in to the rod, so
suitable a fancy rose joint might work. A bit OTT for a SO Morini
though. I may need the cash to buy a complete damper for the Shiver
before taking it to Pahnd Island.


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TOG@Toil
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      02-10-2011, 10:12 AM
On Feb 10, 10:50*am, Pete Fisher <Pe...@ps-fisher.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In communiqué <xn0ha74lzacvyl...@news.eternal-september.org>, SIRPip
> <gingerbl...@gmail.com> cast forth these pearls of wisdom
>
>
>
>
>
> >The Older Gentleman wrote:

>
> >> Pete Fisher <Pe...@ps-fisher.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>
> >> > The Morini has an adjustable hydraulic steering damper (not that it
> >> > really needs one on the road) of what used to be called Kawasaki
> >> > style. *The damping is fine, but the bush that has a bolt through
> >> > it to attach to the bottom yoke has a rather perished rubber bush
> >> > with a loose steel sleeve. A bit like a small version of a twin
> >> > shock top or bottom mounting, but only a 5mm bolt (I think). Can't
> >> > find anything suitable by Googling. Any ideas on replacement. It
> >> > seems silly to have to get a new complete damper (even if the
> >> > correct type is still available), and in any case its functional
> >> > but well used appearance add to the 'patina'.

>
> >> > Very, very close to complete now. I might take a photo tomorrow.

>
> >> I reckon I might have something. Post the pic and let's see.

>
> >Ditto, in my big box of bits (rubber section).

>
> >If I don't, I know a motor factor who prolly has.

>
> OK, photos, up to my usual standard.
> The damper:http://www.ps-fisher.demon.co.uk/pickchurs/Damper.jpg
> The bush:http://www.ps-fisher.demon.co.uk/pic...amper_bush.jpg
>
> The rubber bit goes in an eye with an ID of 15mm and the steel sleeve
> has an OD of 11mm.
>
> Looking at it carefully I reckon the eye may screw in to the rod, so
> suitable a fancy rose joint might work. A bit OTT for a SO Morini
> though. I may need the cash to buy a complete damper for the Shiver
> before taking it to Pahnd Island.
>

Looking at that, I've almost certainly got something. I'll have a look
in my Begiiner's Big Box of Buggered Bouncy Bike Bits tonight.
 
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Krusty
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      02-10-2011, 10:16 AM
Pete Fisher wrote:

> In communiqué <(E-Mail Removed)>, SIRPip
> <(E-Mail Removed)> cast forth these pearls of wisdom
> > The Older Gentleman wrote:
> >
> >>Pete Fisher <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> > >
> >>> The Morini has an adjustable hydraulic steering damper (not that

> it >>> really needs one on the road) of what used to be called
> Kawasaki >>> style. The damping is fine, but the bush that has a
> bolt through >>> it to attach to the bottom yoke has a rather
> perished rubber bush >>> with a loose steel sleeve. A bit like a
> small version of a twin >>> shock top or bottom mounting, but only a
> 5mm bolt (I think). Can't >>> find anything suitable by Googling. Any
> ideas on replacement. It >>> seems silly to have to get a new
> complete damper (even if the >>> correct type is still available),
> and in any case its functional >>> but well used appearance add to
> the 'patina'.
> > > >
> >>> Very, very close to complete now. I might take a photo tomorrow.
> > >
> > > I reckon I might have something. Post the pic and let's see.

> >
> > Ditto, in my big box of bits (rubber section).
> >
> > If I don't, I know a motor factor who prolly has.
> >

>
> OK, photos, up to my usual standard.
> The damper:
> http://www.ps-fisher.demon.co.uk/pickchurs/Damper.jpg
> The bush:
> http://www.ps-fisher.demon.co.uk/pic...amper_bush.jpg
>
> The rubber bit goes in an eye with an ID of 15mm and the steel sleeve
> has an OD of 11mm.
>
> Looking at it carefully I reckon the eye may screw in to the rod, so
> suitable a fancy rose joint might work. A bit OTT for a SO Morini
> though. I may need the cash to buy a complete damper for the Shiver
> before taking it to Pahnd Island.




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SIRPip
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      02-10-2011, 10:50 AM
Pete Fisher wrote:

> The damper:
> http://www.ps-fisher.demon.co.uk/pickchurs/Damper.jpg
> The bush:
> http://www.ps-fisher.demon.co.uk/pic...amper_bush.jpg
>
> The rubber bit goes in an eye with an ID of 15mm and the steel sleeve
> has an OD of 11mm.


Noted.

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Grimly Curmudgeon
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      02-10-2011, 11:53 AM
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Pete Fisher
<(E-Mail Removed)> saying something like:

>
>OK, photos, up to my usual standard.
>The damper:
>http://www.ps-fisher.demon.co.uk/pickchurs/Damper.jpg
>The bush:
>http://www.ps-fisher.demon.co.uk/pic...amper_bush.jpg
>
>The rubber bit goes in an eye with an ID of 15mm and the steel sleeve
>has an OD of 11mm.


Make your own with polyeurethane gloop.
Here's a bigger diy version...
http://forum.bmw5.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=47577

However, I know there's a smaller tube available which has been used
with some success for engine mounts - will continue to google.
 
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Grimly Curmudgeon
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      02-10-2011, 12:06 PM
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Grimly Curmudgeon
<(E-Mail Removed)> saying something like:

>We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
>drugs began to take hold. I remember Pete Fisher
><(E-Mail Removed)> saying something like:
>
>>
>>OK, photos, up to my usual standard.
>>The damper:
>>http://www.ps-fisher.demon.co.uk/pickchurs/Damper.jpg
>>The bush:
>>http://www.ps-fisher.demon.co.uk/pic...amper_bush.jpg
>>
>>The rubber bit goes in an eye with an ID of 15mm and the steel sleeve
>>has an OD of 11mm.

>
>Make your own with polyeurethane gloop.
>Here's a bigger diy version...
>http://forum.bmw5.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=47577
>
>However, I know there's a smaller tube available which has been used
>with some success for engine mounts - will continue to google.


Here we go
http://www.google.com/search?q=diy+e...&safe=off&sa=2
The same gloop is available over here, quite cheaply.
 
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Pete Fisher
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      02-10-2011, 12:37 PM
In communiqué <(E-Mail Removed)>, Grimly
Curmudgeon <(E-Mail Removed)> cast forth these pearls of
wisdom
>We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
>drugs began to take hold. I remember Grimly Curmudgeon
><(E-Mail Removed)> saying something like:
>
>>We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
>>drugs began to take hold. I remember Pete Fisher
>><(E-Mail Removed)> saying something like:
>>
>>>
>>>OK, photos, up to my usual standard.
>>>The damper:
>>>http://www.ps-fisher.demon.co.uk/pickchurs/Damper.jpg
>>>The bush:
>>>http://www.ps-fisher.demon.co.uk/pic...amper_bush.jpg
>>>
>>>The rubber bit goes in an eye with an ID of 15mm and the steel sleeve
>>>has an OD of 11mm.

>>
>>Make your own with polyeurethane gloop.
>>Here's a bigger diy version...
>>http://forum.bmw5.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=47577
>>
>>However, I know there's a smaller tube available which has been used
>>with some success for engine mounts - will continue to google.

>
>Here we go
>http://www.google.com/search?q=diy+e...&safe=off&sa=2
>The same gloop is available over here, quite cheaply.


I'll keep that up my sleeve in case nothing else is possible. Speaking
of engine mounts (as some of those links do), I just started it up
again. I had forgotten how much more the vibes get through to the saddle
when a tuned 350 is mounted in a 250 frame (only three bolts at the
front instead of four). Also the comedy tacho which apart from the
needle flapping furiously tries to escape its primitive rubber band
mounting on each surge of revs, and that's with a brand new cable. The
black electrical tape bodge is going to have to be employed again to
restrain it.
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      02-10-2011, 08:16 PM
On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 07:50:47 +0000, Pete Fisher
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>A bracket is bolted to the frame on the right hand side just below the
>steering head. The damper unit has a right angled pivot mounting that
>bolts to that. A small bolt goes up through the offending bush in to a
>tapped hole in the underside of the bottom yoke.


Ah. I was wondering if it was the same damper arrangement as used on
V11 Guzzis, but it seems not.

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