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Zebee Johnstone
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      03-20-2010, 05:57 AM
In aus.motorcycles on Sat, 20 Mar 2010 16:56:49 +1030
JohnO <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 02:58:51 +0000 (UTC), Zebee Johnstone
><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
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>>In aus.motorcycles on Sat, 20 Mar 2010 12:24:42 +1030
>>JohnO <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>
>>> The Bandit is getting ~ 4.7ltr/100km ~ 21.5km/litre. I think the
>>> Bandit motor knocks out about 96hp out of 1250cc, so it is not an
>>> overly stressed motor.
>>>

>>
>>Probably less stressed than the Norge in Sydney traffic.
>>
>>If I don't ask it to lanesplit for 1m at a time, it does better.
>>
>>Zebee

>
> My bad Zebee, that was for non-city work. I would imagine the norge
> would do better out of town
>


Oh yes, 400km out of 19l at touring speeds. Somewhat less if you are
in the twisty bits.

(And that's lanesplit for 1km not 1m... although sometimes you
only get one or two car lengths at a time)

Zebee
 
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G-S
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      03-21-2010, 05:32 AM
Zebee Johnstone wrote:
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> THe Noggie gets about 320km for 19l around town, so that's 5.9l/100km
> or 16.8km/l. The Mighty Scooter does about the same, but $60 tyres
> every 15,000 are cheaper than $220 tyres every 15,000!


People keep saying 15,000 kms for tyres on a Norge, I get 8000 :-/

> Beign a twoey the scooter's easier to service but the Norge doesn't
> need a litre of bloody expensive 2 stroke oil every 1000km!


You need a 4 stroke scooter you do

> But then if I'd wanted cheap transport I'd not have chosen a heavy
> 1200 or a hot two stroke. The Bolwell scooters seem to run on the
> smell of other people's petrol.


They are badged SYM now and not Bolwell but yes they do.

Jodz's Mio 100 uses 2 litres/100kms (about the same as a Honda 50cc
scooter) and my HD200i evo uses 3 litres per hundred kms (and that's 80%
highway speeds commuting to work).

Most Euro scoots are nice (really I mean it), but scooters are supposed
to be cheap and practical and SYM do cheap and practical better than
most. [1]


G-S

[1] I could probably be tempted by an Aprillia Scarabeo 200 (the 250
doesn't have a flat floor) if a dealer was closer though...
 
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G-S
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      03-21-2010, 05:33 AM
JohnO wrote:

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> The Bandit is getting ~ 4.7ltr/100km ~ 21.5km/litre. I think the
> Bandit motor knocks out about 96hp out of 1250cc, so it is not an
> overly stressed motor.
>
> Johno
>


Not an overly stressed rider?


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Zebee Johnstone
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      03-21-2010, 06:22 AM
In aus.motorcycles on Sun, 21 Mar 2010 17:32:42 +1100
G-S <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> Zebee Johnstone wrote:
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>> THe Noggie gets about 320km for 19l around town, so that's 5.9l/100km
>> or 16.8km/l. The Mighty Scooter does about the same, but $60 tyres
>> every 15,000 are cheaper than $220 tyres every 15,000!

>
> People keep saying 15,000 kms for tyres on a Norge, I get 8000 :-/


On the Z6s? Boggle.

Must be really harsh road surfaces where you are.

Current set has a bit over 10k up, still looking fine.

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      03-22-2010, 06:12 AM
Zebee Johnstone wrote:
> In aus.motorcycles on Sun, 21 Mar 2010 17:32:42 +1100
> G-S <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>> Zebee Johnstone wrote:
>>> THe Noggie gets about 320km for 19l around town, so that's 5.9l/100km
>>> or 16.8km/l. The Mighty Scooter does about the same, but $60 tyres
>>> every 15,000 are cheaper than $220 tyres every 15,000!

>> People keep saying 15,000 kms for tyres on a Norge, I get 8000 :-/

>
> On the Z6s? Boggle.
>
> Must be really harsh road surfaces where you are.
>
> Current set has a bit over 10k up, still looking fine.
>
> Zebee


Most of the roads around here are in the foothills of the Great Dividing
Range and have that high traction road surface (which chews tyres faster).


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theo
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      03-27-2010, 05:09 AM
On Mar 26, 5:11*am, "David Formosa (aka ? the Platypus)"
<dform...@usyd.edu.au> wrote:
> On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 16:14:23 +1100, Moike <bmwmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > George W Frost wrote:

> [...]
> >> Their figures don't add up either
> >> they claim 1.9 litres per 100 kilometres with a 12 litre tank gives ita 250
> >> kilometre range
> >> Not to my addition, which comes to about 630 kilometres a tankful and that
> >> is only running the generating motor

>
> > It may be that the motor isn't capable of recharging the batteries as
> > quickly as they are depleted at cruising speed.

>
> Electric motors draw the most power when they are accelerating. *Once
> there up to cruising speed there is relatively little battery draw.


Sigh. Just like a IC engine then.

Theo
 
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Fraser Johnston
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      07-02-2010, 06:17 AM

"Nev.." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:45CdnR8Ig_-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Fraser Johnston wrote:
>> "JL" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:b9122204-967f-49d4-bb1b-(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> http://news.drive.com.au/drive/motor...0303-ph0n.html
>>>
>>> As per the discussion had here a while ago - new audi will come with a
>>> 250cc engine running at a fixed rpm and only charging the batteries
>>>
>>> Not a diesel though. Wankel petrol.

>>
>> Did the sums and my CBR1000RR is using 8l/100kms which is pretty **** poor
>> for a bike.

>
> Not really, that's quite normal.


My V-Strom 650 does 4.5l/100km and the scooter must do something like 2l/100km.
My twin turbo Liberty car does 11ish so the bike is pretty bad for a bike. For
a litre sports bike it is pretty normal but for a bike it is abysmal.

Fraser


 
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