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The Older Gentleman
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      04-28-2010, 09:36 PM
This is what happens when you don't put the key words in your item
description, and just call it '1978 Honda Yellow'.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=230465168377

....and have it time out at an odd time mid-week

Somebody like me stumbles on it and snaffles it for peanuts.

I honestly can't believe I've got it for this little cash. Question now
is wtf do I do with it?

Breaking it would be criminal, but it's got a brand new factory
chainguard, mudguards and exhaust. That's close to the entire purchase
price, just as parts.

Keep it as a sister bike to the red one? That really appeals.

Re-sell it?

Damned if I know.


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      04-28-2010, 10:25 PM
In message <1jhojxv.1w89y8l1kw6liaN%totallydeadmailbox@yahoo. co.uk>, The
Older Gentleman <(E-Mail Removed)> writes

>snaffles it for peanuts.


Nice one

/waits with 'bated breath.
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      04-29-2010, 06:24 AM
The Older Gentleman <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Somebody like me stumbles on it and snaffles it for peanuts.
>
> I honestly can't believe I've got it for this little cash. Question now
> is wtf do I do with it?


"THE BIKE JUST NEEDS A LITTLE WORK "

I hope that doesn't mean petrol tank welding :-)

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      04-29-2010, 06:39 AM
ts <exbn-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> The Older Gentleman <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> > Somebody like me stumbles on it and snaffles it for peanuts.
> >
> > I honestly can't believe I've got it for this little cash. Question now
> > is wtf do I do with it?

>
> "THE BIKE JUST NEEDS A LITTLE WORK "
>
> I hope that doesn't mean petrol tank welding :-)


Heh. At least 400F tanks are in good supply...

Yeah, I saw that, and reckoned that if it just meant setting up,
de-seizing the front brake, balancing the carbs, freeing a stuck
camchain tensioner - all the usual 400F niggles - I'm up to it.

If it requires serious work, I'll break it and double my money.


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Suzuki TS250ER GN250 Damn, back to six bikes!
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crn@NOSPAM.netunix.com
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      04-29-2010, 09:11 AM
The Older Gentleman <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> This is what happens when you don't put the key words in your item
> description, and just call it '1978 Honda Yellow'.
>
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=230465168377
>
> ...and have it time out at an odd time mid-week
>
> Somebody like me stumbles on it and snaffles it for peanuts.
>
> I honestly can't believe I've got it for this little cash. Question now
> is wtf do I do with it?


Looks rather nice.
<counts pennies>

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      04-29-2010, 09:18 AM
The Older Gentleman <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
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> Yeah, I saw that, and reckoned that if it just meant setting up,
> de-seizing the front brake, balancing the carbs, freeing a stuck
> camchain tensioner - all the usual 400F niggles - I'm up to it.


Hmmm - where do the camchain tensioners stick and what is the easy
was to free them ?. Mine is a tad noisy.

> If it requires serious work, I'll break it and double my money.


Nicely fettled with an MOT you should be able to make a nice profit
without the bother of breaking it.
Looks like a keeper to me though.


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      04-29-2010, 12:01 PM
On 29 Apr, 10:18, c...@NOSPAM.netunix.com wrote:
> The Older Gentleman <totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Yeah, I saw that, and reckoned that if it just meant setting up,
> > de-seizing the front brake, balancing the carbs, freeing a stuck
> > camchain tensioner - all the usual 400F niggles - I'm up to it.

>
> Hmmm - where do the camchain tensioners stick and what is the easy
> was to free them ?. Mine is a tad noisy.
>
> > If it requires serious work, I'll break it and double my money.

>
> Nicely fettled with an MOT you should be able to make a nice profit
> without the bother of breaking it.
> Looks like a keeper to me though.
>

It is. The Doctor has already said as much. As I said elsewhere, I'll
see what the small amount of work it needs is. If it turns out to be
mechanical catastrophe, I'll keep all the bits I want for mine, like
the guards, chainguard, exhaust, and other vital stuff that's
unobtainium these days and flog the rest.
 
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      04-29-2010, 12:50 PM
On 29 Apr, 10:18, c...@NOSPAM.netunix.com wrote:
> The Older Gentleman <totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Yeah, I saw that, and reckoned that if it just meant setting up,
> > de-seizing the front brake, balancing the carbs, freeing a stuck
> > camchain tensioner - all the usual 400F niggles - I'm up to it.

>
> Hmmm - where do the camchain tensioners stick and what is the easy
> was to free them ?. Mine is a tad noisy.
>

Forgot to reply to this bit.

At the front of the block, in between the front engine mounting
plates, there's a small screw and locknut. It's probably broken,
missing or bodged. The bolt bears at 90 degrees on the shaft of the
spring-loaded tensioner rod that's concealed in the tunnel whose
casting you can see.

At the top of that tunnel, there's another bolt head - 12mm from
memory. That's just a blanking plug.

What you're supposed to do is set the tickover with a hot engine to
1200-1400rpm, undo the locknut, undo the small bolt which allows the
spring-loaded rod to move down, and retighten. Unfortunately, because
of the amazingly complex and Mickey Mouse design, the tensioner
doesn't budge. The rod seizes, or the pivoting horseshoe under the
crank sticks (don't bother about that bit: just accept it's there and
it sticks).

So what you do is undo the locknut and the little bolt, and remove the
blacking plug. Stick a slim screwdriver blade down the tunnel. Start
the engine and set the tickover. It may rattle like a box of spanners.
Push down on the screwdriver and lo! The rattle should ease off! This
is because you're physically pushing the tensioner rod down the
tunnel.

When engine is quiet, retighten bolt - carefully!! - and locknut.
Replace blanking plug. Done.

Sometimes, the rod sticks so firmly you need to give the end of the
screwdriver a sharp tap with a smallish hammer to free it.

The tiny little tensioner rod bolt is notorious for stripping its
thread in the casing or breaking off entirely. Should that happen, an
engine-out repair is the only sure way of fixing it.
 
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      04-29-2010, 10:06 PM
TOG@Toil <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
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> At the front of the block, in between the front engine mounting
> plates, there's a small screw and locknut. It's probably broken,
> missing or bodged. The bolt bears at 90 degrees on the shaft of the
> spring-loaded tensioner rod that's concealed in the tunnel whose
> casting you can see.


[snip]
Thanks, I knew there had to be an easy way.
I will try it when I get the beast out of hibernation.

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