"Nev.." wrote
> On 31-Dec-11 18:07, Theo Bekkers wrote:

>> I found a pair of old twin-tone horns off my T3 in the shed. They
>> still work fine.
>
>> I particularly disliked the delay between pressing the button and
>> sound coming from the Stebel. I really would like to have the
>> Marchall
>> brass trumpet horns I had on the T3. The reacted far quicker and
>> made
>> a lot more noise than the Stebel. Like a really lot of noise. But
>> then, they cost a fortune at the time. As I recall $70-$80 in
>> 1977-8.

> I've had stebel airhorns on my past few bikes and none have had what
> I would consider to be a delay worth worrying about... no more than
> a fraction of a second... and any delay is well offset by the
> positive reaction to the noise. Having an absolutely instataneous
> ****ly OEM electric horn is no benefit if the target of your noise
> pays it no attention.

My normal usage of the horn is somewhat sparing, usually just a 'pip'
to show I'm there. Using the horn that way with the Stebel I got no
sound at all as I get my finger off the button before it gets up to
speed. On the ute I left the OEM horn in situ so I actually only get
to hear the Stebel on the odd occasion that I hold the horn button
down.

The OEM Guzzi horns from 1975 came as a pair, with each having a
different tone, combining to form a quite pleasing un-'****ly' sound
that suits my use of it adequately. The single horn as fitted to the
Norge by the factory does have quite a '****ly' sound which ceases
completely at forward velocities in excess of 90 km/h due to the horn
actuator not being able to overcome the pressure of the oncoming air.
This is what prompted me to seek an alternative.

Theo

In aus.motorcycles on Sun, 1 Jan 2012 15:43:34 +0800
Theo Bekkers <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> The OEM Guzzi horns from 1975 came as a pair, with each having a
> different tone, combining to form a quite pleasing un-'****ly' sound
> that suits my use of it adequately. The single horn as fitted to the
> Norge by the factory does have quite a '****ly' sound which ceases
> completely at forward velocities in excess of 90 km/h due to the horn
> actuator not being able to overcome the pressure of the oncoming air.
> This is what prompted me to seek an alternative.
>

I wonder if one that yelled "Free Beer!" at high volume would get
their attention....


Zebee

"Zebee Johnstone" wrote
>Theo Bekkers <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> The single horn as fitted to the
>> Norge by the factory does have quite a '****ly' sound which ceases
>> completely at forward velocities in excess of 90 km/h due to the
>> horn
>> actuator not being able to overcome the pressure of the oncoming
>> air.
>> This is what prompted me to seek an alternative.
>

> I wonder if one that yelled "Free Beer!" at high volume would get
> their attention....

I don't think you would need a very high volume (of sound, beer
probably.)

Theo

Theo Bekkers wrote:
> "Nev.." wrote
>> On 31-Dec-11 18:07, Theo Bekkers wrote:
>
>>> I found a pair of old twin-tone horns off my T3 in the shed. They
>>> still work fine.
>>
>>> I particularly disliked the delay between pressing the button and
>>> sound coming from the Stebel. I really would like to have the
>>> Marchall
>>> brass trumpet horns I had on the T3. The reacted far quicker and
>>> made
>>> a lot more noise than the Stebel. Like a really lot of noise. But
>>> then, they cost a fortune at the time. As I recall $70-$80 in
>>> 1977-8.
>
>> I've had stebel airhorns on my past few bikes and none have had what
>> I would consider to be a delay worth worrying about... no more than
>> a fraction of a second... and any delay is well offset by the
>> positive reaction to the noise. Having an absolutely instataneous
>> ****ly OEM electric horn is no benefit if the target of your noise
>> pays it no attention.
>
> My normal usage of the horn is somewhat sparing, usually just a 'pip'
> to show I'm there. Using the horn that way with the Stebel I got no
> sound at all as I get my finger off the button before it gets up to
> speed. On the ute I left the OEM horn in situ so I actually only get
> to hear the Stebel on the odd occasion that I hold the horn button
> down.
>
> The OEM Guzzi horns from 1975 came as a pair, with each having a
> different tone, combining to form a quite pleasing un-'****ly' sound
> that suits my use of it adequately. The single horn as fitted to the
> Norge by the factory does have quite a '****ly' sound which ceases
> completely at forward velocities in excess of 90 km/h due to the horn
> actuator not being able to overcome the pressure of the oncoming air.
> This is what prompted me to seek an alternative.
>
> Theo
>
>

Horns have next to no legal use on a modern vehicle except in the
country to warn animals, they are sounded after the event almost always
in the city they are to be used only as a warning of danger before an
event other uses are illegal (Except when I want to frighten the
excrement out of someone using theirs unnecessarily )

On Thu, 22 Dec 2011 21:55:20 +1030, David wrote:

> F Murtz wrote:
>
>> Fred Kroft wrote:
>>> F Murtz wrote:
>>>
>>>> What was the name of that extremely loud horn ? (130 odd decibels)
>>>
>>> http://fredgassit.tripod.com/fred021.gif
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Nooo The other sort.
>
> Stebel Nautilus ??
>
> http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/?_nkw=STE...sacat=See-All-
Categories&_fcsfc=0

Found this while digging around,

http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcyc...comparison.htm


Doesn't rate the Stebel very highly.


--
Bill_h

On 01/01/12 22:41, Bill_h wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Dec 2011 21:55:20 +1030, David wrote:
>
>> F Murtz wrote:
>>
>>> Fred Kroft wrote:
>>>> F Murtz wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What was the name of that extremely loud horn ? (130 odd decibels)
>>>>
>>>> http://fredgassit.tripod.com/fred021.gif
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Nooo The other sort.
>>
>> Stebel Nautilus ??
>>
>> http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/?_nkw=STE...sacat=See-All-
> Categories&_fcsfc=0
>
> Found this while digging around,
>
> http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcyc...comparison.htm
>
>
> Doesn't rate the Stebel very highly.
>
>
Let me offer a riposte/retort:

"Holy ****! That's Freaking Loud. That just saved my life".

9/10

(Would have been 10 but I had to make a bracket.

N/

On 2012-01-02, Nigel Allen (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
> On 01/01/12 22:41, Bill_h wrote:
>> Found this while digging around,
>>
>> http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcyc...comparison.htm
>>
>> Doesn't rate the Stebel very highly.

I'm sure they know what they're doing, but 2/2 failures
is... interesting. They did connect the hose to the right part,
right? A compressor spinning but not pumping air to anything useful
isn't going to be very useful, eh? I've had 2/2 successes so far.

> Let me offer a riposte/retort:
>
> "Holy ****! That's Freaking Loud. That just saved my life".

Some would claim you weren't riding defensively enough. But just why
are so many drivers so incompetently crap that they don't even know
it's a good idea to you know, check, before changing lanes?

> 9/10
>
> (Would have been 10 but I had to make a bracket.

Don't forget to warn your workshop guys about it before they test all
the electrics. Very loud in an enclosed space if you're not expecting
it.

Mounting on the BM was interesting though. The fairings are huge, but
there's not much room under them once ESA is installed (I had to split
the parts then join with a short length of hose). My own mount is
fragile, but since the lot of it is wedged up inside the fairing, it
can't really move much anyway (until someone needs to remove the
fairings to access the air intake, in which case I'll probably never
manage to get it back together again). Still working a year later.


--
TimC
Computers make very fast, very accurate mistakes. -- unknown

On 02-Jan-12 12:53, Nigel Allen wrote:

>> Found this while digging around,
>>
>> http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcyc...comparison.htm
>>
>>
>>
>> Doesn't rate the Stebel very highly.
>>
>>
> Let me offer a riposte/retort:
>
> "Holy ****! That's Freaking Loud. That just saved my life".
>
> 9/10

9/10 for me too because I had to grind their bracket off and get a
couple of cable ties to fix mine in place. 50,000km and still going
strong.

That poor review must be about the only negative review I've ever seen
from anyone who has one fitted, and there are plenty of them fitted to
bikes these days.

Nev..

TimC wrote:
> On 2012-01-02, Nigel Allen (aka Bruce)
> was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
>> On 01/01/12 22:41, Bill_h wrote:
>>> Found this while digging around,
>>>
>>> http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcyc...comparison.htm
>>>
>>> Doesn't rate the Stebel very highly.
>
> I'm sure they know what they're doing, but 2/2 failures
> is... interesting. They did connect the hose to the right part,
> right? A compressor spinning but not pumping air to anything useful
> isn't going to be very useful, eh? I've had 2/2 successes so far.
>
>> Let me offer a riposte/retort:
>>
>> "Holy ****! That's Freaking Loud. That just saved my life".
>
> Some would claim you weren't riding defensively enough. But just why
> are so many drivers so incompetently crap that they don't even know
> it's a good idea to you know, check, before changing lanes?
>
>> 9/10
>>
>> (Would have been 10 but I had to make a bracket.
>
> Don't forget to warn your workshop guys about it before they test all
> the electrics. Very loud in an enclosed space if you're not expecting
> it.
>
> Mounting on the BM was interesting though. The fairings are huge, but
> there's not much room under them once ESA is installed (I had to split
> the parts then join with a short length of hose). My own mount is
> fragile, but since the lot of it is wedged up inside the fairing, it
> can't really move much anyway (until someone needs to remove the
> fairings to access the air intake, in which case I'll probably never
> manage to get it back together again). Still working a year later.
>
>


I am going to have that problem probably on my thirty year old R100 ex
police bike.(have not looked yet)