Dr Zoidberg <AlexNOOOOO!!!!!!@drzoidberg.co.uk> wrote:

> "The Older Gentleman" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:1jfcx3s.mpq3tg60nmyoN%totallydeadmailbox@yaho o.co.uk...
> > Salad Dodger <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 18:08:33 +0000, (E-Mail Removed)
> >> (The Older Gentleman) wrote:
> >>
> >> >Salad Dodger <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> ... Drivers face ban if they drink a pint
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/dri...cle7061168.ece
> >> >
> >> >*Shrug*
> >> >
> >> >I can't help thinking that if you're going to have a drink-drive policy,
> >> >that should be: "No booze at all. Zero."
> >>
> >> Enjoy that thought when you get tugged the morning after a few beers,
> >> or on the way up the M20 after a TOGTour.
> >
> > Yeah, well, the Friday night sessions on the TOG Tours are always the
> > killer ones. Saturday night is mild by comparison.
> >
> > Seriously, I wouldn't have a problem with a zero-tolerance drink driving
> > law. If you know the rules, you can abide by them.
> >
> Zero would be far too low.
> The slightest trace of alcohol and you get banned for a year?
> That's not at all proportionate to the hazard you pose.

Fair point. All right, as close to **** all as is practicable, then.



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(E-Mail Removed) (The Older Gentleman) wrote in
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> Seriously, I wouldn't have a problem with a zero-tolerance drink
> driving law. If you know the rules, you can abide by them.

Speaking (whatever) personally, I can rely on the Disco knowing its own
way home, but I wouldn't go within several yards of the bike if I'd had a
drink.

OTOH, when I lived in London and cycled everywhere, I figured you only
had to get on a (push)bike after an evening in the pub to become suddenly
completely sober. Why doesn't that work for a motorbike?

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In article <Xns9D3BD67F9C408jeremyr1200rt@69.16.186.8>, Jérémy says...
>
> (E-Mail Removed) (The Older Gentleman) wrote in
> news:1jfcx3s.mpq3tg60nmyoN%totallydeadmailbox@yaho o.co.uk:
>
> > Seriously, I wouldn't have a problem with a zero-tolerance drink
> > driving law. If you know the rules, you can abide by them.
>
> Speaking (whatever) personally, I can rely on the Disco knowing its own
> way home, but I wouldn't go within several yards of the bike if I'd had a
> drink.
>
> OTOH, when I lived in London and cycled everywhere, I figured you only
> had to get on a (push)bike after an evening in the pub to become suddenly
> completely sober. Why doesn't that work for a motorbike?

A few years ago I was riding my bicycle after a few large drinks.

I landed in a spikey hedge which was funny as **** at the time.

The following morning OTOH...

On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 18:40:43 +0000, (E-Mail Removed) (The
Older Gentleman) wrote:


> If you know the rules, you can abide by them.


Do you know what the speed limit is on this stretch of road Sir..?
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SteveH wrote:
> Salad Dodger <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> ... Drivers face ban if they drink a pint
>>
>>
>> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/dri...cle7061168.ece
>
> First, they came for the smokers.... then they came for the drinkers....
>
> Exactly as predicted by the smokers, then.

And we haven't finished with them, yet

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Scraggy wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 18:40:43 +0000, (E-Mail Removed) (The
> Older Gentleman) wrote:
>
>
>> If you know the rules, you can abide by them.
>
>
> Do you know what the speed limit is on this stretch of road Sir..?

Can != will

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On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 20:10:16 GMT, petrolcan <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>In article <Xns9D3BD67F9C408jeremyr1200rt@69.16.186.8>, Jérémy says...
>>
>> (E-Mail Removed) (The Older Gentleman) wrote in
>> news:1jfcx3s.mpq3tg60nmyoN%totallydeadmailbox@yaho o.co.uk:
>>
>> > Seriously, I wouldn't have a problem with a zero-tolerance drink
>> > driving law. If you know the rules, you can abide by them.
>>
>> Speaking (whatever) personally, I can rely on the Disco knowing its own
>> way home, but I wouldn't go within several yards of the bike if I'd had a
>> drink.
>>
>> OTOH, when I lived in London and cycled everywhere, I figured you only
>> had to get on a (push)bike after an evening in the pub to become suddenly
>> completely sober. Why doesn't that work for a motorbike?
>
>A few years ago I was riding my bicycle after a few large drinks.
>
>I landed in a spikey hedge which was funny as **** at the time.
>
>The following morning OTOH...

Similar tale here, upon leaving the pub I was convinced I could
perform the perfect wheelie after several pints of hobgoblin, but
instead managed to pretty much perform a backward somersault on the
spot. I lay on the floor laughing for a couple of minutes
afterwards, and my back was still decoratively bruised a good week
later.

On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 20:16:08 +0000, Catman
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>SteveH wrote:
>> Salad Dodger <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>>> ... Drivers face ban if they drink a pint
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/dri...cle7061168.ece
>>
>> First, they came for the smokers.... then they came for the drinkers....
>>
>> Exactly as predicted by the smokers, then.
>
>And we haven't finished with them, yet

What else can they do? Banning smoking completely will never work
because there aren't enough cops in the land to enforce it and raising
taxes even higher just won't work because the majority of smokers are
buying duty free tobacco already.

On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 20:05:08 GMT, "Jérémy" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>(E-Mail Removed) (The Older Gentleman) wrote in
>news:1jfcx3s.mpq3tg60nmyoN%totallydeadmailbox@yah oo.co.uk:
>
>> Seriously, I wouldn't have a problem with a zero-tolerance drink
>> driving law. If you know the rules, you can abide by them.
>
>Speaking (whatever) personally, I can rely on the Disco knowing its own
>way home, but I wouldn't go within several yards of the bike if I'd had a
>drink.
>
>OTOH, when I lived in London and cycled everywhere, I figured you only
>had to get on a (push)bike after an evening in the pub to become suddenly
>completely sober. Why doesn't that work for a motorbike?

It did, in the eighties.

Andy Bonwick wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 20:16:08 +0000, Catman
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> SteveH wrote:
>>> Salad Dodger <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>
>>>> ... Drivers face ban if they drink a pint
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/dri...cle7061168.ece
>>> First, they came for the smokers.... then they came for the drinkers....
>>>
>>> Exactly as predicted by the smokers, then.
>> And we haven't finished with them, yet
>
> What else can they do? Banning smoking completely will never work
> because there aren't enough cops in the land to enforce it

True

>and raising
> taxes even higher just won't work because the majority of smokers are
> buying duty free tobacco already.

Are they? Genuinely curious as to the accuracy of that.

As an ex-smoker[1] I am genuinely stunned by how much I notice people
smoking now. Especially when, for example, leaving a concert. As soon
as one gets into the smoking permitted zone, it seems[2] like being back
in the 'bad old days'

[1] Aren't they always the worst?
[2] This is a purely subjective view. I genuinely don't remember finding
smoking quite so 'in your face' when it was more widespread.

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