Salad Dodger wrote:

> ... Drivers face ban if they drink a pint
>
> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/dri...cle7061168.ece

Limit for the railway is 29mg (the medical "zero")

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SteveH wrote:

> > http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/dri...cle7061168.ece
>
> First, they came for the smokers.... then they came for the drinkers....
>
> Exactly as predicted by the smokers, then.

You sound quite stupid with the utterly irrelevant Pastor Niemoller quote
- As an aside the railway has been "zero" since 1992, do you think train
drivers are being persecuted?

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Dr Zoidberg wrote:

> Zero would be far too low.
> The slightest trace of alcohol and you get banned for a year?

Did you read the article - particularly in relation to those in the 50 -
79 range?

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sweller <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> SteveH wrote:
>
> > > http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/dri...cle7061168.ece
> >
> > First, they came for the smokers.... then they came for the drinkers....
> >
> > Exactly as predicted by the smokers, then.
>
> You sound quite stupid with the utterly irrelevant Pastor Niemoller quote

Is it irrelevant, though?

We are seeing one law after another brought in or amended, all of which
seem to be aimed at dividing and grinding down the population.

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Salad Dodger <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
news:(E-Mail Removed):

> On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 20:05:08 GMT, "Jérémy" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>(E-Mail Removed) (The Older Gentleman) wrote in
>>news:1jfcx3s.mpq3tg60nmyoN%totallydeadmailbox@ya hoo.co.uk:
>>
>>> Seriously, I wouldn't have a problem with a zero-tolerance drink
>>> driving law. If you know the rules, you can abide by them.
>>
>>Speaking (whatever) personally, I can rely on the Disco knowing its
>>own way home, but I wouldn't go within several yards of the bike if
>>I'd had a drink.
>>
>>OTOH, when I lived in London and cycled everywhere, I figured you only
>>had to get on a (push)bike after an evening in the pub to become
>>suddenly completely sober. Why doesn't that work for a motorbike?
>
> It did, in the eighties.

Funnily enough, that's when I was cycling in London.

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On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 17:34:21 +0000, Salad Dodger <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote in <(E-Mail Removed)>:
> ... Drivers face ban if they drink a pint

> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/dri...cle7061168.ece

I don't quite see the hoo-ha, that's been the limit in Oz since
the early 80s.

#How will you go when you sit for the test?
#Will you be under oh-five or under arrest?

NSW brought in random stops for breath tests at the same time --
in early December. So they caught lots of young bloods totally ****ed on
the way home from Christmas parties -- in the passenger seat with the car
being driven by their sober girlfriends...

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In article <1jfd2sa.jeww48i53vvbN%(E-Mail Removed)>,
(E-Mail Removed) says...>
> sweller <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> > SteveH wrote:
> >
> > > > http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/dri...cle7061168.ece
> > >
> > > First, they came for the smokers.... then they came for the drinkers....
> > >
> > > Exactly as predicted by the smokers, then.
> >
> > You sound quite stupid with the utterly irrelevant Pastor Niemoller quote
>
> Is it irrelevant, though?
>
> We are seeing one law after another brought in or amended, all of which
> seem to be aimed at dividing and grinding down the population.

Is that what the smoking "ban" has done?

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K1200S

On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 20:40:04 +0000, "sweller"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Dr Zoidberg wrote:
>
>> Zero would be far too low.
>> The slightest trace of alcohol and you get banned for a year?
>
>Did you read the article - particularly in relation to those in the 50 -
>79 range?

We've moved onto TOG's Zero-based police state.

Jeremy <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> > We are seeing one law after another brought in or amended, all of which
> > seem to be aimed at dividing and grinding down the population.
>
> Is that what the smoking "ban" has done?

It has largely made smoking socially unacceptable - now they're moving
onto alcohol.
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On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 20:27:51 +0000 in uk.rec.motorcycles, Catman says:

>Andy Bonwick wrote:
>
>> taxes even higher just won't work because the majority of smokers are
>> buying duty free tobacco already.
>
>Are they? Genuinely curious as to the accuracy of that.

Certainly most that I know are. Every time I go abroad I have friends
wanting tobacco brought back, it seems that Poland is currently the
cheapest Eu country. I don't know if it's the majority but a
significant proportion for sure.

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