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On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 20:27:51 +0000, Catman
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote: >Andy Bonwick wrote: >> On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 20:16:08 +0000, Catman >> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote: >> >>> SteveH wrote: >>>> Salad Dodger <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote: >>>> >>>>> ... Drivers face ban if they drink a pint >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/dri...cle7061168.ece >>>> First, they came for the smokers.... then they came for the drinkers.... >>>> >>>> Exactly as predicted by the smokers, then. >>> And we haven't finished with them, yet  >> >> What else can they do? Banning smoking completely will never work >> because there aren't enough cops in the land to enforce it > >True > >>and raising >> taxes even higher just won't work because the majority of smokers are >> buying duty free tobacco already. > >Are they? Genuinely curious as to the accuracy of that. > I'm obviously only guessing because there won't be government evidence to support it  Most smokers I know are on duty free tobacco and it's certainly readily available in a lot of places. Ok, I work on power stations frequented by dodgy bastards but the average price for 200 cigarettes on a power station is about £35 compared to over £50 shop price. The tax on those cigarettes is going to other countries but if the government dropped prices to the same level I'd be very surprised if the overall take dropped. It's fairly common in the grim north for pub landlords to sell duty free cigarettes to regulars and I've noticed that a fair number have removed the cigarette machines because nobody was using them. >As an ex-smoker[1] I am genuinely stunned by how much I notice people >smoking now. Especially when, for example, leaving a concert. As soon >as one gets into the smoking permitted zone, it seems[2] like being back >in the 'bad old days' > I've cut my intake to less than 10 per day but if I smoked at work and in pubs that'd double. I suspect most other people I know have cut down by a similar amount. |
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Andy Bonwick wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 20:27:51 +0000, Catman > <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote: > >> Andy Bonwick wrote: >>> On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 20:16:08 +0000, Catman >>> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote: >>> >>>> SteveH wrote: >>>>> Salad Dodger <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> ... Drivers face ban if they drink a pint >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/dri...cle7061168.ece >>>>> First, they came for the smokers.... then they came for the drinkers.... >>>>> >>>>> Exactly as predicted by the smokers, then. >>>> And we haven't finished with them, yet >>> What else can they do? Banning smoking completely will never work >>> because there aren't enough cops in the land to enforce it >> True >> >>> and raising >>> taxes even higher just won't work because the majority of smokers are >>> buying duty free tobacco already. >> Are they? Genuinely curious as to the accuracy of that. >> > I'm obviously only guessing because there won't be government evidence > to support it Shame. I would be genuinely interested if that were the case. > > Most smokers I know are on duty free tobacco and it's certainly > readily available in a lot of places. Ok, I work on power stations > frequented by dodgy bastards but the average price for 200 cigarettes > on a power station is about £35 compared to over £50 shop price. The > tax on those cigarettes is going to other countries but if the > government dropped prices to the same level I'd be very surprised if > the overall take dropped. I know so few smokers these days. My father, who gets his own duty free from France. An ex boss, who smokes whatever. Generally buys in the UK, and my brother in law who tends to switch between duty paid and duty free, depending on what he can get. Most of the smokers that I knew when I was working appeared to be smoking duty paid unless they'd been on holiday. [1]Given that BIL is somewhat of a low life, if *he's* not on the duty free all the time, I suspect it's not actually that widespread, but wibble flip do. > > It's fairly common in the grim north for pub landlords to sell duty > free cigarettes to regulars and I've noticed that a fair number have > removed the cigarette machines because nobody was using them. Fair enough. > >> As an ex-smoker[1] I am genuinely stunned by how much I notice people >> smoking now. Especially when, for example, leaving a concert. As soon >> as one gets into the smoking permitted zone, it seems[2] like being back >> in the 'bad old days' >> > I've cut my intake to less than 10 per day but if I smoked at work and > in pubs that'd double. I suspect most other people I know have cut > down by a similar amount. Well I know none of the people listed above have cut down much, if at all. Or at least claimed not to have. [1] I used to spend quite a bit of time in the (outside) smoker's corner as it was a convenient way to get quite time with my then boss. If I went down more than about 3 times per day, I used to feel it in my lungs. Which was something of a shock to an ex cigar smoker. -- Catman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 COSOC#3 Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply) 116 Giulietta 3.0l Sprint 1.7 GTV TS GT 3.2 V6 Triumph Sprint ST 1050: It's blue, see. www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk |
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