And yet again, Casey Stoner ends up in the gravel trap due to the Ducati
front end. <grin>

Rossi went to apologise to Stoner in the Honda garage, and sensibly kept
his helmet on. The cameras and mic followed him in so it was all caught
on TV. Stoner: "Is your shoulder ok, mate?", "Your problem is your
ambition is bigger than your talent" all delivered with a big grin and a
wink to the camera. If he keeps this up, perhaps the cynical Brits will
finally warm to him instead of calling him "Tiny Tears".

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On Sun, 3 Apr 2011 18:58:57 +0100, Julian Bond
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>And yet again, Casey Stoner ends up in the gravel trap due to the Ducati
>front end. <grin>
>
>Rossi went to apologise to Stoner in the Honda garage, and sensibly kept
>his helmet on. The cameras and mic followed him in so it was all caught
>on TV. Stoner: "Is your shoulder ok, mate?", "Your problem is your
>ambition is bigger than your talent" all delivered with a big grin and a
>wink to the camera. If he keeps this up, perhaps the cynical Brits will
>finally warm to him instead of calling him "Tiny Tears".

I'm no big fan of Stoner, but that was a real bonehead move on Rossi's
part, especially in those conditions. If Casey had a fit after the
race, I wouldn't have blamed him at all. His post race comments were
surprisingly tame, and I have to say I've gained some respect for him
for the way he handled it.

Strange race, with both Spies and Simoncelli giving up big points with
nobody near them.

On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 20:31:01 +0100, Champ <(E-Mail Removed)>
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> Damn, wish I'd seen that. It wasn't on the Eurosport coverage - where
> did you see it? BBC?

Yeah; got it with get_iplayer so it should be on the iplayer
coverage:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...Round_2_Jerez/

...at 1:27:00 -- my ears didn't pick it up first time around.

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On Apr 4, 4:13*am, DaveW <yzfr...@yahoooo.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 3 Apr 2011 18:58:57 +0100, Julian Bond
>
> <julian_b...@voidstar.com> wrote:
> >And yet again, Casey Stoner ends up in the gravel trap due to the Ducati
> >front end. <grin>
>
> >Rossi went to apologise to Stoner in the Honda garage, and sensibly kept
> >his helmet on. The cameras and mic followed him in so it was all caught
> >on TV. Stoner: "Is your shoulder ok, mate?", "Your problem is your
> >ambition is bigger than your talent" all delivered with a big grin and a
> >wink to the camera. If he keeps this up, perhaps the cynical Brits will
> >finally warm to him instead of calling him "Tiny Tears".
>
> I'm no big fan of Stoner, but that was a real bonehead move on Rossi's
> part, especially in those conditions. If Casey had a fit after the
> race, I wouldn't have blamed him at all. His post race comments were
> surprisingly tame, and I have to say I've gained some respect for him
> for the way he handled it.
>
> Strange race, with both Spies and Simoncelli giving up big points with
> nobody near them.

Stooner is a sook who cannot race in the wet

AYRTON SENNA:

"By being a racing driver means you are racing with other people. And
if you no longer go for a gap that exists, you are no longer a racing
driver because we are competing, competing to win. And the main
motivation to all of us is to compete for victory, it's not to come
3rd, 4th, 5th or 6th. I race to win"

Well done Senna, and well done Rossi!

On Apr 4, 4:31*am, Champ <n...@champ.org.uk> wrote:
> On Sun, 3 Apr 2011 18:58:57 +0100, Julian Bond
>
> <julian_b...@voidstar.com> wrote:
> >And yet again, Casey Stoner ends up in the gravel trap due to the Ducati
> >front end. <grin>
> >Rossi went to apologise to Stoner in the Honda garage, and sensibly kept
> >his helmet on. The cameras and mic followed him in so it was all caught
> >on TV. Stoner: "Is your shoulder ok, mate?", "Your problem is your
> >ambition is bigger than your talent" all delivered with a big grin and a
> >wink to the camera. If he keeps this up, perhaps the cynical Brits will
> >finally warm to him instead of calling him "Tiny Tears".
>
> Damn, wish I'd seen that. *It wasn't on the Eurosport coverage - where
> did you see it? BBC?
>
> To state the obvious, it was a complete **** up on Rossi's part.

Stooner is a sook who cannot race in the wet

AYRTON SENNA:

"By being a racing driver means you are racing with other people. And
if you no longer go for a gap that exists, you are no longer a racing
driver because we are competing, competing to win. And the main
motivation to all of us is to compete for victory, it's not to come
3rd, 4th, 5th or 6th. I race to win"

Well done Senna, and well done Rossi!


*When
> watching it live on TV, I thought he'd left it too late to try the
> outbraking manoeuvre. *Having said that, Rossi has a long history of
> making mistakes, and this may be part of his popularity - he's
> certainly not a machine.
>
> And, it was fairly clear that he knew he'd made a big **** up, and I
> guess going to Stoner's garage to apologise is as big a gesture as he
> could have made.
>
> However, as reported by Julian above, I do have a bit more respect for
> Stoner if that's how he handled it.
> --
> Champ
> neal at champ dot org dot uk

it was a crazy and unpredictable race.

because of the conditions i am not sure i'd blame Rossi for a kamikaze
move. i also hope it does not have a big effect on the championship in
the end, but it was something that happened between people with the
proverbial potential so hopefully it will cancel itself out. given how
competitive this season is turning out to be, i hope that such
showdowns end just as harmlessly going forward.

i really felt bad about Spies, he was truly laying down a masterful
performance on a track he is not even that familiar with, and the
Spanish fans were digging it.

awesome result for Hayden - hopefully a confidence booster under
conditions that favor riding over material. also great for aoyama
(respect), elias (fix that bike dude), and hopkins (welcome back - top
10 on your first race back must feel like a podium finish).

this is turning out to be a very interesting season thanks to the
paddock moves.

On Apr 4, 8:44*am, PaulpULVITZKA <pulvit...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 4, 4:13*am, DaveW <yzfr...@yahoooo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sun, 3 Apr 2011 18:58:57 +0100, Julian Bond
>
> > <julian_b...@voidstar.com> wrote:
> > >And yet again, Casey Stoner ends up in the gravel trap due to the Ducati
> > >front end. <grin>
>
> > >Rossi went to apologise to Stoner in the Honda garage, and sensibly kept
> > >his helmet on. The cameras and mic followed him in so it was all caught
> > >on TV. Stoner: "Is your shoulder ok, mate?", "Your problem is your
> > >ambition is bigger than your talent" all delivered with a big grin anda
> > >wink to the camera. If he keeps this up, perhaps the cynical Brits will
> > >finally warm to him instead of calling him "Tiny Tears".
>
> > I'm no big fan of Stoner, but that was a real bonehead move on Rossi's
> > part, especially in those conditions. If Casey had a fit after the
> > race, I wouldn't have blamed him at all. His post race comments were
> > surprisingly tame, and I have to say I've gained some respect for him
> > for the way he handled it.
>
> > Strange race, with both Spies and Simoncelli giving up big points with
> > nobody near them.
>
> Stooner is a sook who cannot race in the wet

What are you on about? Check Malaysian MotoGP in 2009... Pouring
rain , and Stoner just walked away from everyone.'

SHELL ADVANCE MALAYSIAN MOTORCYCLE GP
MotoGP Race Classification 2009


Sepang, Sunday, October 25, 2009

Pos. Points Num. Rider Nation Team Bike Km/h Time/Gap
1 25 27 Casey STONER AUS Ducati Marlboro Team Ducati 147.4 47'24.834
2 20 3 Dani PEDROSA SPA Repsol Honda Team Honda 146.7 +14.666
3 16 46 Valentino ROSSI ITA Fiat Yamaha Team Yamaha 146.4 +19.385



http://resources.motogp.com/files/re...df?v1_96143780

On 4/3/2011 12:31 PM, Champ wrote:

> Damn, wish I'd seen that. It wasn't on the Eurosport coverage - where
> did you see it? BBC?

motogp.com subscription streaming had it. If you subscribe for a day you
can stream the archive of the race. Unless it's too close to the end.
They cut off the archive before the post-race inteviews.
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Maybe Rossi wasn't quite familiar with the proverbial Ducati front end
and thought everything was ok.

After the race the wet tires were ripped, as seen in the inspection of
the top 3 bikes. Apparently it got too dry and they were destroyed. The
only tread (cuts for water escaping) left was on the very edges, which
were all torn up.
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Here's what Rossi & Stoner said:

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/168...rez_crash.html

Except, the way I heard it, Rossi said: "Ambition?"

Then he kind of went away. He wasn't real confident.
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