Well my Kawasaki book of lies tells me to screw the air screws in and count
the turns - this is great however they are:

1 1-3/4
2 2-3/4
3 3-1/4
4 1-1/2

So my guess is something is wrong here! Can anyone confirm what they should
be, or a good starting point? (I am on 2 turns out at present)

Cheers

/d

Ovenpaa says...
> Well my Kawasaki book of lies tells me to screw the air screws in and count
> the turns - this is great however they are:
>
> 1 1-3/4
> 2 2-3/4
> 3 3-1/4
> 4 1-1/2
>
> So my guess is something is wrong here! Can anyone confirm what they should
> be, or a good starting point? (I am on 2 turns out at present)

Haven't a clue, but when you find out shout me and I'll drop the vacuum
gauges over for you to set the bloody things up properly. I know what
road, just need the number.

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If it ain't broke, Timo ain't seen it.

> Haven't a clue, but when you find out shout me and I'll drop the vacuum
> gauges over for you to set the bloody things up properly. I know what
> road, just need the number.
>

I spent the morning checking every single electrical connection, and the
afternoon setting the carbs with gauges, and checking the timing - they are
both spot on, I have even checked the float heights, and it still runs like
a sack of shite above 4000 rpm, however you are welcome to come over and
take it around the block - I have run out of ideas now so I will consider
anything including napalm.

No 21

/d

Ovenpaa says...
> > Haven't a clue, but when you find out shout me and I'll drop the vacuum
> > gauges over for you to set the bloody things up properly. I know what
> > road, just need the number.
> >
>
> I spent the morning checking every single electrical connection, and the
> afternoon setting the carbs with gauges, and checking the timing - they are
> both spot on, I have even checked the float heights, and it still runs like
> a sack of shite above 4000 rpm,

Sounds like the main jets and/or emulsion tubes could do with a serious
clean out.


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Lozzo:
If it ain't broke, Timo ain't seen it.

Ovenpaa says...
>
> > Sounds like the main jets and/or emulsion tubes could do with a serious
> > clean out.
> >
>
> They spent a couple of hours in bits in an ultrasonic cleaner in a 50/50 mix
> of petrol and thinners earlier this week, they are as clean as it gets now.

OK.

Now this may seem like a stupid question, but you haven't managed to
block the inlet to the airbox in some way, have you? Pair of waterproofs
casually bunged under the seat, or something similar that I have never
done myself, oh no, not me.


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If it ain't broke, Timo ain't seen it.

On Sat, 29 May 2004 18:20:47 +0100, "Ovenpaa"
<tagmignu*FOS*@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

>Well my Kawasaki book of lies tells me to screw the air screws in and count
>the turns - this is great however they are:
>
>1 1-3/4
>2 2-3/4
>3 3-1/4
>4 1-1/2
>
>So my guess is something is wrong here! Can anyone confirm what they should
>be, or a good starting point? (I am on 2 turns out at present)
>

According to the Haynes BoL, 2 screws is correct.

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ZRX1200S GT750 VFR750

Ovenpaa <tagmignu*FOS*@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

> > Haven't a clue, but when you find out shout me and I'll drop the vacuum
> > gauges over for you to set the bloody things up properly. I know what
> > road, just need the number.
> >
>
> I spent the morning checking every single electrical connection, and the
> afternoon setting the carbs with gauges, and checking the timing - they are
> both spot on, I have even checked the float heights, and it still runs like
> a sack of shite above 4000 rpm, however you are welcome to come over and
> take it around the block - I have run out of ideas now so I will consider
> anything including napalm.
>
Sounds like duff coils to me.....



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GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 IHABWTJ#1 BOTAFOT#60 ANORAK#06
BOF#30 WUSS#5 http://www.chateau.murray.dsl.pipex.com/

"The Older Gentleman" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
message news:1gekohr.1qy0m0fjsab1aN%chateauSPAMKILL.murray @dsl.pipex.com...
> Ovenpaa <tagmignu*FOS*@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > Haven't a clue, but when you find out shout me and I'll drop the
vacuum
> > > gauges over for you to set the bloody things up properly. I know what
> > > road, just need the number.
> > >
> >
> > I spent the morning checking every single electrical connection, and the
> > afternoon setting the carbs with gauges, and checking the timing - they
are
> > both spot on, I have even checked the float heights, and it still runs
like
> > a sack of shite above 4000 rpm, however you are welcome to come over and
> > take it around the block - I have run out of ideas now so I will
consider
> > anything including napalm.
> >
> Sounds like duff coils to me.....
>
>
>
Or plug leads?

Ron Robinson

R.N. Robinson <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> "The Older Gentleman" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> message news:1gekohr.1qy0m0fjsab1aN%chateauSPAMKILL.murray @dsl.pipex.com...
> > Ovenpaa <tagmignu*FOS*@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > > > Haven't a clue, but when you find out shout me and I'll drop the
> vacuum
> > > > gauges over for you to set the bloody things up properly. I know what
> > > > road, just need the number.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I spent the morning checking every single electrical connection, and the
> > > afternoon setting the carbs with gauges, and checking the timing - they
> are
> > > both spot on, I have even checked the float heights, and it still runs
> like
> > > a sack of shite above 4000 rpm, however you are welcome to come over and
> > > take it around the block - I have run out of ideas now so I will
> consider
> > > anything including napalm.
> > >
> > Sounds like duff coils to me.....
> >
> >
> >
> Or plug leads?
>
One plug lead - possible. Two or more - unlikely. Coil is more likely.
Exactly the same thing happened to my GT. All the symptoms were of fuel
starvation. Except it was a coil breaking down.


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Ovenpaa let forth with a mighty belch and uttered :

>
>> > > Sounds like duff coils to me.....
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > Or plug leads?
>> >
>> One plug lead - possible. Two or more - unlikely. Coil is more likely.
>> Exactly the same thing happened to my GT. All the symptoms were of fuel
>> starvation. Except it was a coil breaking down.
>>
> I checked the carb breather routing, stripped the fuel tap and swapped the
> coils over today and no difference, however if it was the coil then I
> guess I would not see a change. Interestingly No2 seems fine, but then so
> did the other 3, they all got hand hot in about the same time.
>
> I have noticed that it starts without choke, and fluffs then stalls when
> you pull the choke out at low revs, and still refuses to rev much past 6k
> but if you get above 6k then pull the choke out it revs (albeit badly)
> through to 10k, however this is off load, when ridden it is a lot worse.
>
> This has to be carbs,everything else seems spot on, unless a dodgy ignitor
> can lead to such a strange scenario.

It can but save your pennies for now.


>
> I guess the next plan of attack is replace the coils, then if that fails
> strip the carbs and check one last time.
>

Get a multimeter on the coils before replacing them. Try and borrow a strobe
lamp just to make sure the ignition is advancing. Do you have access to a
colour-tune?, they can be useful.


> I have never been beaten by a bike like this before.
>
> Final stage is down to the shop I fear..................
>
> /d

Going to a Kawasaki dealership is a good plan. Take the ignitor and coils
with you and get them to test them.

Before you do, smear vaseline over the inlet rubbers. It'll fill in any
small cracks ( well, until the engine gets hot anyways ). Check the plugs
for rich/weak mixture. Have you dismantled the crank end of the ignition
system?, had the cams out to replace shims and put a cam back one tooth
out?. On to the carbs. Are all the diaphrams OK and did you remantle the
carbs correctly. Each slide should rise under light finger pressure and
fall back as if gently damped.

HTH


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