There's no getting away from the fact that Labor governments have
historically been hellbent on implementing what some people call ,not
always unfairly, a "Nanny state".

ie. "We know what's best for you", "Motorcycling is dangerous, come over
here and have a look at this nice comfortable, warm and safe car, now
isn't that better?".

Coalition governments historically have been about choice hence they've
never had it in for motorcyclists like this current state government
does.

ps. Your Westgate Bridge crack is not appreciated. Suicide is serious, I
hope you are never touched by it as my family was earlier this year (on
that very bridge).

Howard

Smee <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:


>William Lye wrote:
>>
>> Shouldn't be long before Bracks and Batchelor will require us to have
>> men carrying flags walking slowly in front of our vehicles.
>>
>> I drive and ride.
>>
>> Neither of my vehicles does 40 kp/h smoothly without constant gear
>> changes.
>>
>> Not to mention having to keep one eye on the road and the other on
>> the speedo.
>>
>> The next Victorian State Election can't come soon enough for me
>> (though I realise they'll win again).
>
>
>Oh well
>how soon before we see you jump off the westgate?

"Howard Cooper" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> There's no getting away from the fact that Labor governments
> have historically been hellbent on implementing what some
> people call ,not always unfairly, a "Nanny state".
>
> ie. "We know what's best for you", "Motorcycling is dangerous,
> come over here and have a look at this nice comfortable, warm
> and safe car, now isn't that better?".
>
> Coalition governments historically have been about choice hence
> they've never had it in for motorcyclists like this current state
> government does.

Do they have a name for what's wrong with you? Somehow, "stupid" just
doesn't seem to stretch far enough to cover it all...

Howard Cooper wrote:

> There's no getting away from the fact that Labor governments have
> historically been hellbent on implementing what some people call ,not
> always unfairly, a "Nanny state".

Err... you forgot the ****ing gate Howard!

--
Pete ¨...not to mention aus.politics.¨
Fat Black Harley (Road Toad)

"Howard Cooper" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed) s.com...
> There's no getting away from the fact that Labor governments have
> historically been hellbent on implementing what some people call ,not
> always unfairly, a "Nanny state".

Who introduced most of Australia's speed cameras? The ones in NSW and the
ACT certainly came in under Liberal Governments, can other people fill in
the blanks for other states?


--
Marco Spaccavento
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"James Mayfield" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> There can't be too many Marco Spaccavento's out there in the world. Is
this
> the same Marco Spaccavento that went to Hulrstone Ag High School?

Haven't you heard? Marco Spaccaventos come in six-packs

Nah, it's me allright, class of '98 like your good self.


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Marco Spaccavento
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I think you will find that the actual legislation took place under labor
let me know if you do , that's the normal way it works.

Marco Spaccavento wrote:
>
> "Howard Cooper" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed) s.com...
> > There's no getting away from the fact that Labor governments have
> > historically been hellbent on implementing what some people call ,not
> > always unfairly, a "Nanny state".
>
> Who introduced most of Australia's speed cameras? The ones in NSW and the
> ACT certainly came in under Liberal Governments, can other people fill in
> the blanks for other states?
>
> --
> Marco Spaccavento
> (E-Mail Removed)

--
Unix Rules... help your mates and introduce them.

"atec77>>" <"(antispam)atec77"@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> I think you will find that the actual legislation took place under labor
> let me know if you do , that's the normal way it works.

I'll look into it. But in NSW, it was definitely done under Greiner,
although fixed cameras came in under Carr. Here in the ACT, they were
around before Labor got back into office in 2001, so sometime during the
1995-2001 Liberal era.

I'll dig around on the other states and see if I can find out, or if the
group can fill us in.


--
Marco Spaccavento
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well there have been several instances here in QLD where the outgoing
coalition left some time bombs for the current labor arseholes. now they
have been there long enough its becoming a stretch to claim any one else
in the last few years left XXX for them , but we may see a change some
time soon so Im sure the forthcoming incumbent will either leave
something or frantically kill that same upon regaining office .. its
been that way for far to long and as a populace we don't do anything to
stop them .
Pauline was got at so its back to the two party system , at least when
Joe was relevant we knew he was dodgy but the life style was awsome ,
now its just shiite.,


Marco Spaccavento wrote:
>
> "atec77>>" <"(antispam)atec77"@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > I think you will find that the actual legislation took place under labor
> > let me know if you do , that's the normal way it works.
>
> I'll look into it. But in NSW, it was definitely done under Greiner,
> although fixed cameras came in under Carr. Here in the ACT, they were
> around before Labor got back into office in 2001, so sometime during the
> 1995-2001 Liberal era.
>
> I'll dig around on the other states and see if I can find out, or if the
> group can fill us in.
>
> --
> Marco Spaccavento
> (E-Mail Removed)

--
Unix Rules... help your mates and introduce them.

"atec77>>" <"(antispam)atec77"@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Pauline was got at so its back to the two party system , at least when
> Joe was relevant we knew he was dodgy but the life style was awsome ,
> now its just shiite.,

It's called paying the piper...

Howard Cooper wrote:

> ps. Your Westgate Bridge crack is not appreciated. Suicide is serious, I
> hope you are never touched by it as my family was earlier this year (on
> that very bridge).

Well looks like the nanny state didn't help you then?
he crack was not directed at you but the troll to whom I was replying to.
Yes We have had a suicide in our circle of friends as well.
Yes it was heartbreaking
Yes we get over it.


KiwiPete's philosophy as quoted
Glad to bring mirth!
Actually truth be known I don't dislike Clem... or Theo or Paulh or even
Nev... well maybe Nev... its just that we don't have a huge amount in common
and tend to all fly off!