"kiwipete" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "Boxer" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:rpebb.115075$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > How about random humanity testing, see if they're actually still human
> > > beings or just corporate drones.
> >
> > I have spend a lot of time with many of them, most are really good
people.
> >
> > Had a beer with Peter Costello last weekend, a very interesting bloke
and
> > easy to talk to.
>
> So many criticise pollies without ever knowing them..

Its their policies, not their personalities (or hair styles, or suits) that
I'm intersted in.

Cheers,
Mark

The right to withdraw labour is guaranteed by the UN Declaration on Human
Rights... which unfortunatly our government of does not think applies to it.
I think Paul Keating once called such a government "recalcitrant"...

"Kasper Kowalski" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
> "Nev.." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > kiwipete wrote:
> >
> > > The problem seems to occur when the "union" becomes a large
organization
> >
> > so.... lets see.... like the National Farmers Federation ?
> >
> > > and align themselves politically..
> >
> > ohhh.. who does that.... ummmm the National Farmers Federation ?
> >
> > > They then get larger than the people they represent
> >
> > oh... hmmm... like the ahhhhh National Farmers Federation ?
> >
> > > and start to work as an organization rather than a collective power...
> >
> > sort of like what the National Farmers Federation did at Patricks ?
> >
> >
> > Yes, Good points you make, Pete. Keep it up.
>
> Out of curiosity, can unions be held financially liable for loss of
> productivity when their strike is unjustified?
>
> KK
>
>

My main concern is that employees receive "fair" pay and conditions,
commensurate with work done.

Here's another way of looking at it. Those employees that "deserve it" could
receive additional benefits, in the form of over award pay, promotion,
career advancement, training, or just easier or more interesting duties.

M.

"Kasper Kowalski" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
> "Mark Micallef" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:3U6bb.114523$(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> > With job scarcity and workplace
> > competitiveness in my profession, I have to bargain individually for a
> > raise. Collective bargaining would not only secure everyone a better
deal
> > (pay, training, opportunities for career advancement), but ensure fair
> hours
> > (and therefore better health and life-work balance) for all, plus
improved
> > job security.
>
> Collective bargaining would also ensure that those that may not deserve a
> pay-rise, get one. Is that fair on (a) employees that work harder (b) the
> employer?
>
> KK
>
>

"kiwipete" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I teach kids as well... music...

I thought it was drumming!

>
> I will definately not refrain from posting whatever I like to this
group...

who could expect it?

> but will never think of it in the same way again... I am simply astounded
> that all this crap could come out of something so well intentioned...

Ahh.. good intentions... one day you might learn how bad they can be.

But that would require an open mind.

Moike
(who finds it much nicer inside KPs killfile than out of it)

"Intact Kneeslider" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> conehead wrote:
> >
> > "Mark Micallef" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >
> >>What a pity then that his policies are all about screwing the people in
> >>favour of a small corporate elite...
> >
> > The Liberals always use a woman to screw the least able to fight back.
> >
> > You might recall Senator Jocelyn Newman, Howard's Community Services
> > Minister, who screwed the unemployed, the widows, the disabled, and the
> > frail & elderly while she picked up her dead husband's Army pension, his
> > parliamentary pension, and then retired to pick up her own parliamentary
> > pension. What a class act she was, a triple-dipper!
> >
> > Now it's Amanda Vanstone. What a specimen. I wouldn't **** on her if
she
> > was on fire. I would after it went out though.
>
> Don't forget what Vanstone's portfolio during Howard's first
> term was... education. Except she didn't work out so he
> tried to present the kids with someone they might see as one
> of them, someone who'd see things their way, "I give you
> Brendan Nelson. He wears an earring with a pinstripe suit."
>
> Who the **** keeps voting for these people?
>
Another "jobs for the boys" event. He was the head of the doctors union,
always railing against labor governments but nice and complaisant with the
liberals, then...bingo! A reward preselection and a front-bench job.

--
Conehead
I just don't like it.