Left to their own devices, I'd expect that they would be equally safe. Add
a dickhead to a car, and the motorcyclist is at risk.

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been totally distroyed... I am copying this thread and will send it... but
I'll send it not to the parents, but to a couple of magazines I know..."
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"Uncle Bully" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:3f701c21$0$6529$(E-Mail Removed) ...
> > And given that the large majority of carpassenger deaths are head
> > related then a helmet would make a substantial statistical change in
> > that figure.
>
> Well it's about risk management. You can't tell me that a motorcycle is
> safer than a car, not on public streets under normal conditions. Sure
people
> in cars get maimed and killed, but they do so at a far less rate and
survive
> far more accidents than people on bikes. I'm prepared to live with the
risk
> of not wearing a helmet in a car, I'm not willing to do the same on a
bike.
>
>

"Uncle Bully" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message

> I'm prepared to live with the risk
> of not wearing a helmet in a car, I'm not willing to do the same on a
bike.

And yet you'll choose to ride a bike which is more risky than driving a
car...

Hardly consistent...

Doug Cox.
Work to ride, Ride to work...

On 23/9/03 7:57 AM, in article (E-Mail Removed),
"Zebee Johnstone" <(E-Mail Removed)> decided to come out from under the bed
and slurred:
> The majority of crash cases in head injury wards are from car crashes.

....head injury wards?

You did get a big bump on the head!

Hammo

On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:12:36 +1000, "Uncle Bully"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>> And given that the large majority of carpassenger deaths are head
>> related then a helmet would make a substantial statistical change in
>> that figure.
>
>Well it's about risk management. You can't tell me that a motorcycle is
>safer than a car, not on public streets under normal conditions.

Well seeing as it isn't so, then no.. I wouldnt say it.

But, in case you're not sure, I'm not talking about comparing safety
between the two and have made no such statement. Just that the
majority of car accident deaths are caused by brain injuries. Wearing
helmets would lessen the amount of deaths per year by a considerable
amount. How much is one life worth, 10, 20, 30? who knows!

>Sure people
>in cars get maimed and killed, but they do so at a far less rate and survive
>far more accidents than people on bikes. I'm prepared to live with the risk
>of not wearing a helmet in a car, I'm not willing to do the same on a bike.

But 'safe' is undefinable. IF you made your loved ones wear helmets
they would stand less chance of dying. Isn't that worth it? How
valuable are their lives to you? Don't you love them enough to insist
they minimise the risks?

But we don't. And we dont for any mathematically definable reason
other than what seems 'normal'.

paulh

"Zebee Johnstone" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
> Because helmets aren't magical.
>
> I got a head injury that kept me in hospital a week, and I was wearing a
> helmet.
>
> A helmet will prevent some head injuries, and lessen some others. Hit
> your head hard enough and that's that, lid or no lid.
>

"They" are yet to design a way to prevent the brain from smashing against the inside of one's skull.

Dale Porter

"paulh" wrote

> But 'safe' is undefinable. IF you made your loved ones wear helmets
> they would stand less chance of dying.

Some mob is selling styro helmets for babies who just are learning to
walk. Then when they get to the stage when they are just too tall to
walk under the table. That generation will wear helmets in cars
because they will have worn one all their lives.

I feel sorry for apprentice hairdressers.

Theo

"Dale Porter" wrote

> "They" are yet to design a way to prevent the brain from smashing
against the inside of one's skull.

Easy. Remove skull bones and replace with styrofoam shell.

Theo
Can I patent that idea?

"sharkey" wrote

> Eh? I'm just going to make a styrofoam table.

Nah. Walking into a table actually teaches you something.

Theo

On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 09:45:12 UTC, "Theo Bekkers" <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

} "Dale Porter" wrote
}
} > "They" are yet to design a way to prevent the brain from smashing
} against the inside of one's skull.
}
} Easy. Remove skull bones and replace with styrofoam shell.

Occasionally I see riders that have opted to have their brain removed
instead.

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