On 1 sep, 08:20, totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk (The Older Gentleman)
wrote:

> There are some people who still need to face up to their national
> behaviour. Like the Japanese. And the French (wo were fighting the
> British and Americans in 1943, for heaven's sake).

Or Italians, who were on both sides, but... fought?

During the Spanish civil war 36-39 the Italians were defeated by the
loyal Republican army in Guadalajara, with some speed records running
away from the battle no sooner some large bombs started to fall.

Franco's rebel nationalists were actually so fed up of the spaghetti
that eventually they sang these words to the tune of "Facetta nera":
"Guadalajara no es Abisinia
aquí los rojos tiran bombas como piñas...
sino es por el Tercio y....
no queda un italiano en toda Guadalajara"

EMFDYSI translation service -powered by Google-:
Guadalajara not is Africa, Reds -not Liverpool, not wino- bombs big,
Scorccio! Spics cobardes Butros Butros Gali.

In the referenced article, Domenec <(E-Mail Removed)> writes:
>On 1 sep, 08:20, totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk (The Older Gentleman)
>wrote:
>
>> There are some people who still need to face up to their national
>> behaviour. Like the Japanese.

As do the British, the Americans, the `Israelis', ...

Face it: the Germans are probably the only country who have honestly
faced up to what they did in a (any) war.

>Or Italians, who were on both sides, but... fought?

In fairness, the partisans, once they got started, were a fairly
serious outfit. When the Allies rolled into Genova, the city had
already been liberated and the local police were directing the
traffic.
--
Si deve tornare alle basi: Marx ed i Clash.

Michael Carley: http://people.bath.ac.uk/ensmjc/

The Older Gentleman wrote:
> des <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> > ogden <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >
> > > The war ended 65 years ago. Really, let it go.
> >
> > *applause*
>
> There are some people who still need to face up to their national
> behaviour.

"National behaviour"

Jesus wept. It's a different generation. Most of them are dead. The rest
soon will be.

The world's changed quite a bit in the last 70 years, though it's
probably hard to tell when your main source of information on the world
is a seemingly never-ending stack of WW2 history books.

--
ogden

gsxr1000 - the gentleman's sports-tourer
ktm duke - the practical cross-town commuter

Kevin Gleeson wrote:
> On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 23:00:03 -0700, sean_q <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> >Vass wrote:
> >
> >> Southsea has a very active pond on Sunday Mornings
> >>
> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/jainbow/1408893564/
> >
> >It looks like someone there has a model of an ore carrier
> >built for the Great Lakes of North America. I wonder if
> >it's the _Edmund Fitzgerald_, sunk with all hands in a gale
> >on Lake Superior, November, 1975:
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ed...erald_NOAA.jpg
>
> I clicked on that and it just spoiled my memories of Gordon
> Lightfoot's song of the same name. I'd always imagined he wrote it
> about a sailing ship from the 1800s or something. Well, there ya go.

An easy mistake to make. Iron ore was commonly transported long
distances by multi-mast 19th century sailing ships. Everyone knows that.

--
ogden

gsxr1000 - the gentleman's sports-tourer
ktm duke - the practical cross-town commuter

In the referenced article, ogden <(E-Mail Removed)> writes:
>The Older Gentleman wrote:
>> des <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>> > ogden <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>> >
>> > > The war ended 65 years ago. Really, let it go.
>> >
>> > *applause*
>>
>> There are some people who still need to face up to their national
>> behaviour.
>
>"National behaviour"
>
>Jesus wept. It's a different generation. Most of them are dead. The rest
>soon will be.

If you state things in terms of `national behaviour', other people's
crimes are genetically determined outrages, while `our' `errors' need
not affect our sense of our essential nobility.
--
Si deve tornare alle basi: Marx ed i Clash.

Michael Carley: http://people.bath.ac.uk/ensmjc/

ogden wrote:

> An easy mistake to make. Iron ore was commonly transported long
> distances by multi-mast 19th century sailing ships. Everyone knows
> that.

http://www.clevelandmemory.org/glihc/oretrade.html

--
Chris

CT wrote:
> ogden wrote:
>
> > An easy mistake to make. Iron ore was commonly transported long
> > distances by multi-mast 19th century sailing ships. Everyone knows
> > that.
>
> http://www.clevelandmemory.org/glihc/oretrade.html

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=whatever

--
ogden

gsxr1000 - the gentleman's sports-tourer
ktm duke - the practical cross-town commuter

R C Nesbit wrote:
> Ogden spoke:
> > "National behaviour"
> >
> > Jesus wept. It's a different generation. Most of them are dead. The rest
> > soon will be.
> >
> > The world's changed quite a bit in the last 70 years, though it's
> > probably hard to tell when your main source of information on the world
> > is a seemingly never-ending stack of WW2 history books.
>
> And *some* people think History is Bunk, thus continue blithely making the
> same mistakes, over and over again.

That's nice and all, but you appear to be making an unrelated point.

--
ogden

gsxr1000 - the gentleman's sports-tourer
ktm duke - the practical cross-town commuter

On 1 Sep, 15:24, des <d...@des.com> wrote:
> The Older Gentleman <totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>

> > There are some people who still need to face up to their national
> > behaviour. Like the Japanese. And the French (who were fighting the
> > British and Americans in 1943, for heaven's sake).
>
> As someone else said: bollox. *What 'national behaviour'? *And what
> possible relation does 'national behaviour' from 1933 have to do with
> 'national behaviour' today? *How does it justify bigoted jibes at current
> Germans? *
>
The French like to sweep it under the carpet. always have done. Like
the popular myth of the Resistance - it hides an inconvenient truth,
which was that there was no such thing until they were prodded to
'resist' by the Brits.

How many French actually realise that their forefathers
enthusiastically helped load the cattle wagons bound for Auschwitz,
and fought the Brits and Yanks with a vim and zeal that they
conspicuously failed to muster against the Germans?

Very difficult for a country to look anyone in the eye and criticise,
when it refuses to acknowledge the skeletons in its own cupboard.

It's all true....

On Wed, 1 Sep 2010 07:20:19 +0100, (E-Mail Removed) (The
Older Gentleman) wrote:

>des <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> ogden <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>> > The war ended 65 years ago. Really, let it go.
>>
>> *applause*
>
>There are some people who still need to face up to their national
>behaviour. Like the Japanese. And the French (wo were fighting the
>British and Americans in 1943, for heaven's sake).

I thought the Japanese had apologised for their actions and the French
are just cunts.