S'mee <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> On Jan 9, 6:57 am, Jack Hunt <jhun...@tds.net> wrote:
> > On Sat, 9 Jan 2010 13:31:34 +0000, totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk (The Older
> >
> > Gentleman) wrote:
> > >On a 28 year-old bike whose cover may not have been removed for a decade
> > >or more, this is not good advice.
> >
> > How many 28 year old bikes have the standard tool kit still intact?
>
> Mine does and my other one did up until the mid 80's when the kit went
> MIA...

My 400 Four does, actually. And that's now 32 years old...


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S'mee <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Oh STF you idiot...what you describe is the PERFECT way to munge up
> perfectly good screws.

Yes.

>That is assuming some moron like your
> incompetant self hasn't already munged them up in the past.

Yes
>
> sheesh for a self proclaimed expert at everything you sure are a
> stupid ****.

Yes

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paul c <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Haven't tried it myself but a guy I knew would point a plumber's propane
> torch toward such screws for a minute or so, then point an aerosol spray
> at it, I seem to remember the aerosol was nitrogen, maybe that's wrong,
> which would quickly cool the surrounding metal. I'm guessing this is
> one way to "break corrosion loose", as you put it. I think he was doing
> it on a brake caliper fixture which may not have been the same situation
> as an aluminum engine case. Is this a good technique in general or is
> it risky depending on the metal involved? (eg., aren't many carb bodies
> made from a zinc compound, not aluminum?)

Heat and cold are both really useful tools, yes. I tend to apply heat to
a lot of fasteners on old bikes before even attempting to undo them.
Also on things like 1970s bleed nipples on brake calipers. I've never
found it necessary on a clutch cover screw, though.

>
> (The same guy would try to turn a Phillips screw only once. If that
> didn't work first crack, he would immediately get out his impact driver,
> and if that didn't work right away he'd then try some kind of thread
> loosener chemical or apply heat.

He sounds like a good wrench. I tend to do the same.

> Phillips driver tip that had any gouges and always use the biggest size
> that would fit the screw.

Yes, again, good.

> Whenever I've used an impact driver, it
> seemed the most fruitful technique involved a good solid whack, not a
> bunch of little taps like I've seen people do, also a good heavy hammer,
> at least 32 oz. seems to be easier to hitting hard without hitting one's
> hand.

And again yes. The spring inside the driver is a tough'un, and you need
a bloody good wallop.

> This makes me wonder if anybody makes an impact driver with a
> hand guard, the kind some big cold chisels come with.)

Heh. I wish they did because I've hammered my own hand more than once.
I've never seen such a shield, and I'm sure there'd be a market for it
:-))

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On Jan 9, 5:57*am, Jack Hunt <jhun...@tds.net> wrote:

> How many 28 year old bikes have the standard tool kit still intact?

I still have the OEM Japanese tool kits from several motorcycles. I
always carry
quality tools with me when I ride though.

But the phillips screwdriver and the little t-handle that was also
included in the OEM tool kit works just fine for breaking tight
phillips screws loose, with the assistance of a few sharp blows with a
hammer.

I have owned exactly *one* impact driver. I sold it at a swap meet in
1969, and never bought another one, because they are *so* unnecessary.

On Jan 9, 6:07*am, totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk (The Older
Gentleman) wrote:

> KrustyUS's probably does, because his mechanical knowledge doesn't even
> extend to removing a spark plug.....

Tell us about motorcycle riding on Corsica or Sardinia. Tell us about
trends in agricultural commodities.

Tell us *anything*, besides the same old boring **** about how stupid
"KrustyUS" is...

Gael <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Tell us about motorcycle riding on Corsica or Sardinia.

I'm pretty sure I've never ridden a bike in Sardinia, and the last time
I rode in Corsica was, IIRC, a quarter of a century ago.

I think you've been taking some rather odd meds.


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Gael <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> I have owned exactly *one* impact driver. I sold it at a swap meet in
> 1969, and never bought another one, because they are *so* unnecessary.

Like changing brake fluid is....


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Mark Olson <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> The trick I described, if done properly, is nearly invisible

Yeah, it sounds neat.

>and doesn't
> damage the usability of the screw so it's faster and simpler than digging
> through a large bucket of screws for a matching length, diameter, and
> pitch, or going to the hardware store or bike shop. I generally don't
> tend to have a lot of #3 Phillips head spare screws lying about,

Ah. I forgot - you've never seen the interior of my garage. One day, I
must post a picture.

Actually, it was done a couple of years ago, when Classic Bike asked all
its contributors to do something for an 'our garages' feature. I'm
trying to think where the picture is now. Must be on one of the other
Macs.

I set up the camera on a tripod with the widest ens I've got,
illuminated the back of the garage with a lamp, used a time exposure and
popped off the flash to illuminate some other bits... it worked a treat.

Mind you, it's got more cluttered since then. I keep *all* fasteners
that aren't mullered, in lot of tins and glass jars. I'm never lost for
a bolt, nut, screw of anything similar.


> I have
> considerably more hex head but like to keep the bike correct rather than
> just put together.

That's a nice way of putting it. And, er, correct, as well.


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On Jan 9, 9:15*am, Gael <breoganmacbr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jan 9, 6:07*am, totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk (The Older
>
> Gentleman) wrote:
> > KrustyUS's probably does, because his mechanical knowledge doesn't even
> > extend to removing a spark plug.....
>
> Tell us about motorcycle riding on Corsica or Sardinia. Tell us about
> trends in agricultural commodities.
>
> Tell us *anything*, besides the same old boring **** about how stupid
> "KrustyUS" is...

Why? Everybody who's anybody has been to those shite holes. Lousy
food, crappy weather and too many fat stupid american tourists...like
you. BTW gael everybody know you are krusty US and that you are an
incompetant pervert who gives degenerates a bad name.

On Jan 9, 8:58*am, totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk (The Older
Gentleman) wrote:
> S'mee <stevenkei...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > On Jan 9, 6:57 am, Jack Hunt <jhun...@tds.net> wrote:
> > > On Sat, 9 Jan 2010 13:31:34 +0000, totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk (The Older
>
> > > Gentleman) wrote:
> > > >On a 28 year-old bike whose cover may not have been removed for a decade
> > > >or more, this is not good advice.
>
> > > How many 28 year old bikes have the standard tool kit still intact?
>
> > Mine does and my other one did up until the mid 80's when the kit went
> > MIA...
>
> My 400 Four does, actually. And that's now 32 years old...

nice...though I find the Honda OEM spanners to be a little soft for my
taste. Pretty resistant to corrosion for that matter...the kit on my
GL1000 is spotless in spite of having spent it's entire existance on
the wet side of Washington.