Cant we have more queries about "good old" British bikes........... Japanese
ones were far too reliable for me to get very interested in .
Steve the grease

"R L Driver" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Cant we have more queries about "good old" British bikes...........
Japanese
> ones were far too reliable for me to get very interested in .
^^^^^^^^^^^
You have never owned a KH triple, X7, FT500, CB750/900FA or KR1 then I take
it?

JB

Thus spake R L Driver unto the assembled multitudes:
> Cant we have more queries about "good old" British bikes........... Japanese
> ones were far too reliable for me to get very interested in .

Oh, so you actually *enjoyed* getting your fingers dirty every weekend, the
puddle of oil on the driveway, the fruitless heaving on the kickstarter,
the worry of riding more than a few dozen miles in case it broke down
(again), the vibration, the bits falling off, being left standing (and
laughed at) by mates on Japanese bikes? That was my experience anyway, and
I feel no nostalgia for it whatsoever (just amused recollection).

But each to his own, I guess.

The new Triumphs are of course a different story, which is why I own one
(well, a ten-year-old new one, anyway, which has never missed a beat nor
leaked any oil). I'd never have another (old) old one, though.




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In news:bot491$c0$(E-Mail Removed),
Andy Clews <(E-Mail Removed)> fumbled, fiddled and
fingered:
> Thus spake R L Driver unto the assembled multitudes:
>> Cant we have more queries about "good old" British
bikes...........
>> Japanese ones were far too reliable for me to get very
interested in
>> .
>
> Oh, so you actually *enjoyed* getting your fingers dirty every
> weekend, the puddle of oil on the driveway, the fruitless
heaving on
> the kickstarter,
> the worry of riding more than a few dozen miles in case it
broke down
> (again), the vibration, the bits falling off, being left
standing (and
> laughed at) by mates on Japanese bikes? That was my
experience
> anyway, and I feel no nostalgia for it whatsoever (just amused
> recollection).
>
> But each to his own, I guess.
>
> The new Triumphs are of course a different story, which is why
I own
> one (well, a ten-year-old new one, anyway, which has never
missed a
> beat nor leaked any oil). I'd never have another (old) old one,
> though.

Prolly visits Madame Dominatrix for a good thrashing with wet
birchwood too ;o)


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Steve Parry

http://www.gwynfryn.co.uk

http://wrexhamseals.tripod.com

"Steve Parry" <k100rs_1990nospamthank-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:botb9j$1gl69c$(E-Mail Removed)...
> In news:bot491$c0$(E-Mail Removed),
> Andy Clews <(E-Mail Removed)> fumbled, fiddled and
> fingered:
> > Thus spake R L Driver unto the assembled multitudes:
> >> Cant we have more queries about "good old" British
> bikes...........
> >> Japanese ones were far too reliable for me to get very
> interested in
> >> .
> >
> > Oh, so you actually *enjoyed* getting your fingers dirty every
> > weekend, the puddle of oil on the driveway, the fruitless
> heaving on
> > the kickstarter,
> > the worry of riding more than a few dozen miles in case it
> broke down
> > (again), the vibration, the bits falling off, being left
> standing (and
> > laughed at) by mates on Japanese bikes? That was my
> experience
> > anyway, and I feel no nostalgia for it whatsoever (just amused
> > recollection).
> >
> > But each to his own, I guess.
> >
> > The new Triumphs are of course a different story, which is why
> I own
> > one (well, a ten-year-old new one, anyway, which has never
> missed a
> > beat nor leaked any oil). I'd never have another (old) old one,
> > though.

***AOL***
>
> Prolly visits Madame Dominatrix for a good thrashing with wet
> birchwood too ;o)
>
<Perk>

JB

R L Driver said....
> "good old"
^^^^ ^^^

This.. doesn't go with

> British bikes
^^^^^^^ ^^^^^
this ...

HTH

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On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:24:13 -0000, Lozzo <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>R L Driver said....
>> "good old"
> ^^^^ ^^^
>
>This.. doesn't go with
>
>> British bikes
> ^^^^^^^ ^^^^^
>this ...
>
>HTH

I think you are all being a little unfair. True, to compare a British
bike of the 70's or even 60's (one could take the arguement back even
to the 50's) with a Japanese equivalent is not going to leave you with
much good to say about the Brit Bike.

However, what we are talking about there is looking at an example from
what was a dying industry, rapidly running out of ideas, innovation
and quality assurance!

But spin the clock back a few (let's say 30 or 40) years and you could
see the same manufacturers (and a few others), producing great
products that could stand comparison with just about anything, from
anywhere (granted with some exceptions), mainly because they all
leaked oil, but that was the level of technology/development. The
problem was that the British bike industry did not move far enough or
fast enough from that point...

So maybe we need to get some perspective on what we mean by "Old
British Bikes" before we tar them all with the same brush...?

Nick

In the referenced article, (E-Mail Removed) (Frinton Boy) writes:

>But spin the clock back a few (let's say 30 or 40) years and you
>could see the same manufacturers (and a few others), producing great
>products that could stand comparison with just about anything, from
>anywhere (granted with some exceptions), mainly because they all
>leaked oil, but that was the level of technology/development. The
>problem was that the British bike industry did not move far enough or
>fast enough from that point...

A bit like its products.
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In news:(E-Mail Removed),
M J Carley <(E-Mail Removed)> fumbled, fiddled and fingered:
> In the referenced article, (E-Mail Removed) (Frinton
Boy)
> writes:
>
>> But spin the clock back a few (let's say 30 or 40) years and
you
>> could see the same manufacturers (and a few others), producing
great
>> products that could stand comparison with just about anything,
from
>> anywhere (granted with some exceptions), mainly because they
all
>> leaked oil, but that was the level of technology/development.
The
>> problem was that the British bike industry did not move far
enough or
>> fast enough from that point...
>
> A bit like its products.

titter
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http://wrexhamseals.tripod.com

"JB" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
> "Steve Parry" <k100rs_1990nospamthank-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:botb9j$1gl69c$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > In news:bot491$c0$(E-Mail Removed),
> > Andy Clews <(E-Mail Removed)> fumbled, fiddled and
> > fingered:
> > > Thus spake R L Driver unto the assembled multitudes:
> > >> Cant we have more queries about "good old" British
> > bikes...........
> > >> Japanese ones were far too reliable for me to get very
> > interested in
> > >> .
> > >
> > > Oh, so you actually *enjoyed* getting your fingers dirty every
> > > weekend, the puddle of oil on the driveway, the fruitless
> > heaving on
> > > the kickstarter,
> > > the worry of riding more than a few dozen miles in case it
> > broke down
> > > (again), the vibration, the bits falling off, being left
> > standing (and
> > > laughed at) by mates on Japanese bikes? That was my
> > experience
> > > anyway, and I feel no nostalgia for it whatsoever (just amused
> > > recollection).
> > >
> > > But each to his own, I guess.
> > >
> > > The new Triumphs are of course a different story, which is why
> > I own
> > > one (well, a ten-year-old new one, anyway, which has never
> > missed a
> > > beat nor leaked any oil). I'd never have another (old) old one,
> > > though.
>
> ***AOL***
> >
> > Prolly visits Madame Dominatrix for a good thrashing with wet
> > birchwood too ;o)

That wouldn't be Miss Norton Dominatrix would it?

Rick.