On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 16:36:15 +0000, Wicked Uncle Nigel
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Ace
><(E-Mail Removed)> typed
>>On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 16:12:44 +0000, Wicked Uncle Nigel
>><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>>>Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Mark Olson
>>><(E-Mail Removed)> typed
>>>>Ace wrote:
>>
>>>>> Eh? I've always considered that having the donor vehicle's engine
>>>>> running was a prerequisite.
>>>>
>>>>No no no- 'car volts' are bigger than 'bike volts' and will instantly
>>>>fry your
>>>>precious bike's electrickery gubbins.
>>>
>>>No it's fine, so long as the off-side of the car is nearest the
>>>Westernmost point of the motorcycle.
>>>
>>>Well, in the Northern Hemisphere anyway.
>>
>>Is that West wrt the car or the motorbike?
>
>Yes.

Thanks, I'm glad that's clear.

But what happens if it's a Southern Hemisphere car, or bike, or both?

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Ace
<(E-Mail Removed)> typed
>On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 16:36:15 +0000, Wicked Uncle Nigel
><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Ace
>><(E-Mail Removed)> typed
>>>On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 16:12:44 +0000, Wicked Uncle Nigel
>>><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Mark Olson
>>>><(E-Mail Removed)> typed
>>>>>Ace wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> Eh? I've always considered that having the donor vehicle's engine
>>>>>> running was a prerequisite.
>>>>>
>>>>>No no no- 'car volts' are bigger than 'bike volts' and will instantly
>>>>>fry your
>>>>>precious bike's electrickery gubbins.
>>>>
>>>>No it's fine, so long as the off-side of the car is nearest the
>>>>Westernmost point of the motorcycle.
>>>>
>>>>Well, in the Northern Hemisphere anyway.
>>>
>>>Is that West wrt the car or the motorbike?
>>
>>Yes.
>
>Thanks, I'm glad that's clear.
>
>But what happens if it's a Southern Hemisphere car, or bike, or both?

I think I can demystify the whole Northern / Southern hemisphere thing,
and cut through any potential confusion with the simple question: "Who
cares about the Southern Hemisphere?".

--
Wicked Uncle Nigel - "He's hopeless, but he's honest"

I've always been a man who's open to persuasion

The Older Gentleman <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> ts <exbn-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> > Or - ?
>
> Mine is distinctly reluctant in winter after a mouple of months of
> inaction, which is why I try to run it up every month or so.

Yes, I'll have to adjust to that, as long as the SS has me.

> A jump-start off the car plus, in extremis, a blowlamp on the plugs
> always starts it, though.

Hopefully that won't be necessary, if it allowed to purr for a while
evry month, then.

--
ts in Surrey // to send e-mail, remove vehicle
K-RS 8v, 80/7, 750SS

On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 10:01:09 -0600, Mark Olson <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>Ace wrote:
>> On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:15:00 +0000, YTC#1 <bdp-(E-Mail Removed)>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:15:13 +0100, Ace wrote:
>>
>>>> So what's your objection to jump-starting it then?
>>> Shifting the car, moving it out the garage, arsing around and then worry
>>> that someone will have the bright idea of turning the car motor on.
>>
>> Eh? I've always considered that having the donor vehicle's engine
>> running was a prerequisite.
>
>No no no- 'car volts' are bigger than 'bike volts' and will instantly fry your
>precious bike's electrickery gubbins.

I had my Bandit jump started by the AA patrolman's flatbed lorry the
other day. At my request I add. Doesn't appear to have done it any
harm.
--
GSX-R1000 K8
Bandit 1250GT L0 (Make me an offer, I need to buy another car)
GSX-R600 W

YTC#1 <bdp-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> I also kept a spare to swap in, I am sure that was under
> the seat when TS picked it up.

(checks)

Yes, nice & shiny NGKs.

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ts in Surrey // to send e-mail, remove vehicle
K-RS 8v, 80/7, 750SS

R C Nesbit <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Move it to within 53 ft from your house.

Yup, already there. More like 27 ft, at halfways between the garage and
house.

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ts in Surrey // to send e-mail, remove vehicle
K-RS 8v, 80/7, 750SS

YTC#1 <bdp-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 22:43:49 +0000, ts wrote:
>
> > . . Is it then normal to expect it to be a bugger to start now?
>
> Yes, I did tell you about that trait, therefore it was easier to run it
> every 2 weeks for about 10 mins.

(fishing out faint memories) . . , yes. I defaulted back to my winter
lay-up SOP, which is to change the oil and leave alone to not drain the
battery.

> > Or - ?
>
> A small amount of time on full choke, then 1/2.
> If it does not fire after a couple of mins, leave it, go and have a cup of
> tea. Take the front plug out and clean it.
>
> Replace plug, repeat above.

Thanks. I should have thought back on my XL600, which was easy to start
with _exactly_ the right amount of choke, but would leave you sweaty &
panting[1] if it got marginally too much.

> After 30 mins of the cycle, put battery back on trickle charge and leave
> it until the next day.

I think I'll leave the battery disconnected and roll it over to the car
for the monthly purring sessions.

[1]Kick start only
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ts in Surrey // to send e-mail, remove vehicle
K-RS 8v, 80/7, 750SS

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, R C Nesbit
<(E-Mail Removed)> typed
>Wicked Uncle Nigel spoke:
>> >>>Is that West wrt the car or the motorbike?
>> >>
>> >>Yes.
>> >
>> >Thanks, I'm glad that's clear.
>> >
>> >But what happens if it's a Southern Hemisphere car, or bike, or both?
>>
>> I think I can demystify the whole Northern / Southern hemisphere thing,
>> and cut through any potential confusion with the simple question: "Who
>> cares about the Southern Hemisphere?".
>
>Doesn't the coriolis effect have any bearing in this?

Don't be ridiculous.

--
Wicked Uncle Nigel - "He's hopeless, but he's honest"

I've always been a man who's open to persuasion

On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 10:01:09 -0600, Mark Olson wrote:

> Ace wrote:
>> On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:15:00 +0000, YTC#1 <bdp-(E-Mail Removed)>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:15:13 +0100, Ace wrote:
>>
>>>> So what's your objection to jump-starting it then?
>>> Shifting the car, moving it out the garage, arsing around and then
>>> worry that someone will have the bright idea of turning the car motor
>>> on.
>>
>> Eh? I've always considered that having the donor vehicle's engine
>> running was a prerequisite.
>
> No no no- 'car volts' are bigger than 'bike volts' and will instantly fry
> your precious bike's electrickery gubbins.

Which is what I am also led to believe, and I don't want to test the
theory.


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On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:57:09 +0000, ts wrote:

> YTC#1 <bdp-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> I also kept a spare to swap in, I am sure that was under the seat when
>> TS picked it up.
>
> (checks)
>
> Yes, nice & shiny NGKs.

Karma :-)


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