On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 21:09:23 +0100, Champ squeezed out the following:

>On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 14:07:30 +0100, Gyp <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>[1] Pay more for something than anyone else thinks it's worth (c) Champ
>
>While I'd love to take credit, I'm not at all sure that this quote
>should be attributed to me.

I'm the only person I've seen quote it on ukrm, and I nicked it from a
newspaper columnist - can't remember which.

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Colin Irvine wrote:

> I'm the only person I've seen quote it on ukrm, and I nicked it from a
> newspaper columnist - can't remember which.

So it was probably Champ quoting you quoting someone else. Either way
it's a good quote.

Though possibly with a few exceptions, the one person that thinks it's
worth more than the winning bidder is the seller.



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In uk.rec.motorcycles.classic TOG@Toil <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >
> It's not so bad. You'll just have to be ruthless. Try and get it going
> with a jump-start and some fresh petrol, and the plugs that are in it
> cleaned. If it runs sweetly then, it might be worth continuing. If,
> OTOH, it splutters and misfires, or doesn't even run it all, forget
> it.

Well....
Bodged a spare battery onto it, cleaned the plugs, drained the tank.
A gallon of fresh fuel, drained the carbs, refilled, drained again.
Started after a quick sniff of Easy Start but only running on the
right 2 cylinders. Rechecked spark - 1&2 both OK.
Smelt fuel, found that carbs 1&2 are flooding out of the overflow pipes
so it looks like the floats are sticky. If sitting in fresh fuel
overnight does not fix it I will have to pull them out and do some
cleaning.

General condition is not bad but not good. It needs a left side panel
and a good cleanup. Some twerp has sprayed the chrome rear mudguard
matt black, the visible parts are actually OK but the usual rot under
the seat.

So far, so good. It is only costing time which I have plenty of as a
pensioner.

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76 Honda 400/4 project
68 Bantam D14/4 Sport (Classic)
06 Sukida SK50QT (Slanty eyed shopping trolley)

<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Smelt fuel, found that carbs 1&2 are flooding out of the overflow pipes
> so it looks like the floats are sticky.

Or the float valve seat seals have hardened and are no longer sealing.
See this month's Classic Bike for an ilustrated article on how to fix
them.


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In uk.rec.motorcycles.classic The Older Gentleman <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> > Smelt fuel, found that carbs 1&2 are flooding out of the overflow pipes
> > so it looks like the floats are sticky.
>
> Or the float valve seat seals have hardened and are no longer sealing.
> See this month's Classic Bike for an ilustrated article on how to fix
> them.

Progess is being made ....

The carbs were badly shitted up, as can be expected for something left
standing since the tax disk ran out in 10/01. Much cussing getting the
damn things out with short stubby fingers. I have a nice box of Lidl's
assorted O rings so the silicone bodge was not required.
The engine now sounds nice and sweet so no worries there.
If nobody asks me for the engine I will continue fettling.

The brakes are sticky, a strip and clean should fix that.
I need to find a BOL or at least a wiring diagram, the indicators are
not working and it does not seem to be charging, I suspect both problems
are due to corroded connections rather than expensive parts.

Onwards and upwards....

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03 GS500K2
76 Honda 400/4 project
68 Bantam D14/4 Sport (Classic)
06 Sukida SK50QT (Slanty eyed shopping trolley)

(E-Mail Removed) writes:

> In uk.rec.motorcycles.classic The Older Gentleman <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>> > Smelt fuel, found that carbs 1&2 are flooding out of the overflow pipes
>> > so it looks like the floats are sticky.
>>
>> Or the float valve seat seals have hardened and are no longer sealing.
>> See this month's Classic Bike for an ilustrated article on how to fix
>> them.
>
> Progess is being made ....
>
> The carbs were badly shitted up, as can be expected for something left
> standing since the tax disk ran out in 10/01. Much cussing getting the
> damn things out with short stubby fingers. I have a nice box of Lidl's
> assorted O rings so the silicone bodge was not required.
> The engine now sounds nice and sweet so no worries there.
> If nobody asks me for the engine I will continue fettling.

Good start.

> The brakes are sticky, a strip and clean should fix that.

They all do that and it's the front so it'll be a stuck arm.

Good luck, you'll need it.

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<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> The brakes are sticky, a strip and clean should fix that.
> I need to find a BOL or at least a wiring diagram, the indicators are
> not working and it does not seem to be charging, I suspect both problems
> are due to corroded connections rather than expensive parts.

Brakes - see Timo's answer. That'll be the silly pivoting arm front
caliper.

Charging - almost certainly the connections, as the old SOHC fours all
have super-reliable charging systems, in my experience.


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In uk.rec.motorcycles.classic The Older Gentleman <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> > The brakes are sticky, a strip and clean should fix that.
> > I need to find a BOL or at least a wiring diagram, the indicators are
> > not working and it does not seem to be charging, I suspect both problems
> > are due to corroded connections rather than expensive parts.
>
> Brakes - see Timo's answer. That'll be the silly pivoting arm front
> caliper.

Not on this one, it has the Superdream forks and wheels [1]. The rear brake
was dragging, fixed with some WD40 where the armspline enters the drum.
BTW I also have the (tatty) original forks & wheels - they could be
restored but ICBA at the moment.

> Charging - almost certainly the connections, as the old SOHC fours all
> have super-reliable charging systems, in my experience.

Thats what I thought. Do you know of a downloadable wiring diagram
or BOL, if not I will order a Haynes BOL from Spamazon.

[1] Is this a common modification ?, the superdream wheels look quite
good, are lighter, and take tubeless tyres.


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03 GS500K2
76 Honda 400/4 project
68 Bantam D14/4 Sport (Classic)
06 Sukida SK50QT (Slanty eyed shopping trolley)

<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> In uk.rec.motorcycles.classic The Older Gentleman
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> > <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >
> > > The brakes are sticky, a strip and clean should fix that.
> > > I need to find a BOL or at least a wiring diagram, the indicators are
> > > not working and it does not seem to be charging, I suspect both problems
> > > are due to corroded connections rather than expensive parts.
> >
> > Brakes - see Timo's answer. That'll be the silly pivoting arm front
> > caliper.
>
> Not on this one, it has the Superdream forks and wheels [1].

Oh yeah, I forgot.


>The rear brake was dragging, fixed with some WD40 where the armspline
>enters the drum. BTW I also have the (tatty) original forks & wheels -
>they could be restored but ICBA at the moment.

Um, I've got some decent wheels and forks, actually. Obviously, you'll
need the original brake assembly, though.

>
> > Charging - almost certainly the connections, as the old SOHC fours all
> > have super-reliable charging systems, in my experience.
>
> Thats what I thought. Do you know of a downloadable wiring diagram
> or BOL, if not I will order a Haynes BOL from Spamazon.

I've got two or three Haynes BOLs in my garage. Drop us your snail mail
address (my addie in sig) and I'll post one off to you.

>
> [1] Is this a common modification ?, the superdream wheels look quite
> good, are lighter, and take tubeless tyres.

It's more common to see a 400 Super Dream front end, because that gives
you the double disc. The 250's single disc is no better than the 400
Four's. I don't think the Comstars are much lighter, actually. They do
look nice, as you say, but obviously these days everyone wants
originality.


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In uk.rec.motorcycles.classic The Older Gentleman <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> It's more common to see a 400 Super Dream front end, because that gives
> you the double disc. The 250's single disc is no better than the 400
> Four's. I don't think the Comstars are much lighter, actually. They do
> look nice, as you say, but obviously these days everyone wants
> originality.

In my experience on a 250 SuperDream, Comstar wheels are terrifying in a
strong crosswind, even if they do look nice.

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