JackH wrote:

> On Sep 11, 12:37*am, "Lozzo" <lo...@lozzo.org.uk> wrote:
> > SteveH wrote:
> > > This is the 'Taiwan Golden Bee' company, located in Taiwan,
> > > governed by China?
> >
> > > Which means they're no better than any other Chinese bike - as the
> > > online owner reviews confirm.
> >
> > Funny how just about all the reviews I've read tonight point out how
> > well built and reliable they are. The only bad ones were regarding
> > the delivery model, which is usually abused by spotty yoofs who
> > cane the **** out of them delivering pizzas and suchlike.
>
> Nothing to do with the fact those bought for commercial use would have
> almost certainly have been used a metric ton more, (with most of it
> 'stop start' within a small urban area), than those bought for private
> use, then...

That doesn't help either, but as an ex-Dominos delivery rider I can
tell you that you can destroy the most reliable and hardy of small
motorcycles - the venerable Honda C90 Cub - in a matter of hours if you
give it to a crowd of 17 year olds who use it for pizza delivery.

--
Lozzo
Versys 650 Tourer, CBR600F-W racebike in the making, TS250C, RD400F
(somewhere)
BMW E46 318iSE (it's a car, not one of those 2-wheeled pieces of shite
they churn out)

The Older Gentleman wrote:

> Lozzo <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> > Btw, the engines are Morinis.
>
> Franco, presumably. It would be glorious if they were Moto :-))

Franco Morinis. TGB also make 90% of the variators and pulley systems
for Japanese scooter manufacturers as OE.

--
Lozzo
Versys 650 Tourer, CBR600F-W racebike in the making, TS250C, RD400F
(somewhere)
BMW E46 318iSE (it's a car, not one of those 2-wheeled pieces of shite
they churn out)

On 10 Sep 2010 21:45:37 GMT, "Lozzo" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Buzby wrote:
>
>
>> I was thinking of getting a scoot for using aroung town - any
>> recommendations? - I was thinking one of the Gilera runners might be
>> fun - something like the 2 smoke 180cc version
>
>Buy a TGB, dirt cheap but reliable as most Hondas mainly because Honda
>make a lot of their scooters in China.
[snip]
>Avoid anything Chinese and all Peugeots, cos they are also mainly
>Chinese shite with French badges.

Err...


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-Pip

On 2010-09-11 19:23:45 +0100, "Lozzo" <(E-Mail Removed)> said:

> but as an ex-Dominos delivery rider

As a complete aside, I used to make the dough for Dominos.

--
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Moto Guzzi California Aquila Nera
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Pip Luscher wrote:

> On 10 Sep 2010 21:45:37 GMT, "Lozzo" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> > Buzby wrote:
> >
> >
> >> I was thinking of getting a scoot for using aroung town - any
> >> recommendations? - I was thinking one of the Gilera runners might
> be >> fun - something like the 2 smoke 180cc version
> >
> > Buy a TGB, dirt cheap but reliable as most Hondas mainly because
> > Honda make a lot of their scooters in China.
> [snip]
> > Avoid anything Chinese and all Peugeots, cos they are also mainly
> > Chinese shite with French badges.
>
> Err...

Honda being Honda have some sort of quality control in their Chinese
factories, but they aren't as good as the Japanese built Hondas. This
week we've had two Chinese built Honda Lead 110s in for tyres, even
though they're still running ok, both are falling apart and we couldn't
read the VIN on one because the frame had rusted so much; it is a 58
plate bike.



--
Lozzo
Versys 650 Tourer, CBR600F-W racebike in the making, TS250C, RD400F
(somewhere)
BMW E46 318iSE (it's a car, not one of those 2-wheeled pieces of shite
they churn out)

(E-Mail Removed) wrote:

> Which part of "skint teenager" did you not understand.
> The little buggers are dead simple to fix, spares are cheap and
> plentiful and there is even a Haynes BOL to get the scrotes started
> on the joys of fettling.

<snip *******s>

Selling **** Chinese built scooters to teenagers with little money is
tantamount to theft - I won't do it. Even I have morals

--
Lozzo
Versys 650 Tourer, CBR600F-W racebike in the making, TS250C, RD400F
(somewhere)
BMW E46 318iSE (it's a car, not one of those 2-wheeled pieces of shite
they churn out)

In uk.rec.motorcycles.classic Donnie <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> What about a lambretta? [1]

> [1] Ducks!

"Over the side with it!"

My first ever powered two-wheeler was a Lammie SX200. Pure evil, that thing
was. Had never ridden anything before, and I had to ride it 10 miles home
from the seller, through Brighton, behind my dad in his car. I'm not sure
which of the two of us was more shaken up when we got home.

--
Andy Clews
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(E-Mail Removed) wrote:

> In uk.rec.motorcycles.classic Donnie <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> > What about a lambretta? [1]
>
> > [1] Ducks!
>
> "Over the side with it!"
>
> My first ever powered two-wheeler was a Lammie SX200. Pure evil,
> that thing was. Had never ridden anything before, and I had to ride
> it 10 miles home from the seller, through Brighton, behind my dad in
> his car. I'm not sure which of the two of us was more shaken up
> when we got home.

LOL, still got it, i'll give you £50??

--
Donnie
"**** the world, it's time to fight back"

Lambretta Series 2 186cc "The Shitter"
Lambretta LD 175cc "The Chopper"
Honda CB500R "Look out, Donnie's about!"

In uk.rec.motorcycles.classic Donnie <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> (E-Mail Removed) wrote:

>> My first ever powered two-wheeler was a Lammie SX200. Pure evil,
>> that thing was. Had never ridden anything before, and I had to ride
>> it 10 miles home from the seller, through Brighton, behind my dad in
>> his car. I'm not sure which of the two of us was more shaken up
>> when we got home.

> LOL, still got it, i'll give you £50??

Heavens, no. I only had it for a year. I swapped it in 1974 for an
ex-police Ariel Leader, which looked pig-ugly but handled very nicely
(considering it was shod with Avon Skidmasters) and started reliably. I did
tart the Lammie up first, though, with a bizarre, conflicting range of
embellishments: a seat with a tall backrest, Alice Cooper eyes on the front,
red flames on the front mudguard, and the classic "Yes" band logo on the side
panels. Oh, and I wore a parka on it. Gimme a break, I was only 18... ;-)

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(E-Mail Removed) wrote:

> In uk.rec.motorcycles.classic Donnie <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> > (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
>
> >> My first ever powered two-wheeler was a Lammie SX200. Pure evil,
> >> that thing was. Had never ridden anything before, and I had to
> ride >> it 10 miles home from the seller, through Brighton, behind my
> dad in >> his car. I'm not sure which of the two of us was more
> shaken up >> when we got home.
>
> > LOL, still got it, i'll give you £50??
>
> Heavens, no. I only had it for a year. I swapped it in 1974 for an
> ex-police Ariel Leader, which looked pig-ugly but handled very nicely
> (considering it was shod with Avon Skidmasters) and started reliably.
> I did tart the Lammie up first, though, with a bizarre, conflicting
> range of embellishments: a seat with a tall backrest, Alice Cooper
> eyes on the front, red flames on the front mudguard, and the classic
> "Yes" band logo on the side panels. Oh, and I wore a parka on it.
> Gimme a break, I was only 18... ;-)

heh heh

--
Donnie
"**** the world, it's time to fight back"

Lambretta Series 2 186cc "The Shitter"
Lambretta LD 175cc "The Chopper"
Honda CB500R "Look out, Donnie's about!"