I've been working through my bits of vehicles that need sorn declaring
despite them being just a chassis.
I have a bare 400/4 frame than I can't do online.

I get this message:

Unable to Use Service

Unfortunately, because of the tax class of the vehicle or recent changes
to the vehicle record, you are currently unable to apply for a tax disc
or declare SORN using this service.

You will need to apply for the tax disc or declare SORN at a
licence-issuing Post Office® or DVLA Local Office (as applicable for the
vehicle) using the reminder (Vehicle Licence Application/SORN
Declaration) or the Registration Document/Certificate together with the
Insurance Certificate or Cover Note, MOT Test Certificate/GVT Test
Certificate (if applicable) and fee.

It appears to put me in an impossible situation.
I don't have a reminder (it's never been anything but a frame when in my
possession) just the registration documents.
It certainly cant be MOT'd and there's no point insuring it.

I suppose I'll have to phone them up......
--
Mark Roberts

mark wrote:

>
> I've been working through my bits of vehicles that need sorn
> declaring despite them being just a chassis. I have a bare 400/4
> frame than I can't do online.
>
> I get this message:
>
> Unable to Use Service
>
> It appears to put me in an impossible situation.
> I don't have a reminder (it's never been anything but a frame when in
> my possession) just the registration documents. It certainly cant
> be MOT'd and there's no point insuring it.
>
> I suppose I'll have to phone them up......

Has it been taxed or sorn'd since sorn came in? If not, you don't need
to worry about it.

--
Krusty

Raptor 1000 MV 750 Senna Tiger 885 Fantic Hiro 250

On 23/05/2011 08:39, mark wrote:
>
> I've been working through my bits of vehicles that need sorn declaring
> despite them being just a chassis.
> I have a bare 400/4 frame than I can't do online.
>
> I get this message:
>
> Unable to Use Service
>
> Unfortunately, because of the tax class of the vehicle or recent changes
> to the vehicle record, you are currently unable to apply for a tax disc
> or declare SORN using this service.
>
> You will need to apply for the tax disc or declare SORN at a
> licence-issuing Post Office® or DVLA Local Office (as applicable for the
> vehicle) using the reminder (Vehicle Licence Application/SORN
> Declaration) or the Registration Document/Certificate together with the
> Insurance Certificate or Cover Note, MOT Test Certificate/GVT Test
> Certificate (if applicable) and fee.
>
> It appears to put me in an impossible situation.
> I don't have a reminder (it's never been anything but a frame when in my
> possession) just the registration documents.
> It certainly cant be MOT'd and there's no point insuring it.
>
> I suppose I'll have to phone them up......

Isn't the wording just fluffed? You need that pile of **** for the tax
disc, but not so much for the sorn. A v5c should do that, shouldn't it?

On Mon, 23 May 2011 08:39:05 +0100, mark <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>
>I've been working through my bits of vehicles that need sorn declaring
>despite them being just a chassis.
>I have a bare 400/4 frame than I can't do online.
>
>I get this message:
>
>Unable to Use Service
>
>Unfortunately, because of the tax class of the vehicle or recent changes
>to the vehicle record, you are currently unable to apply for a tax disc
>or declare SORN using this service.
>
>You will need to apply for the tax disc or declare SORN at a
>licence-issuing Post Office® or DVLA Local Office (as applicable for the
>vehicle) using the reminder (Vehicle Licence Application/SORN
>Declaration) or the Registration Document/Certificate together with the
>Insurance Certificate or Cover Note, MOT Test Certificate/GVT Test
>Certificate (if applicable) and fee.
>
>It appears to put me in an impossible situation.
>I don't have a reminder (it's never been anything but a frame when in my
>possession) just the registration documents.
>It certainly cant be MOT'd and there's no point insuring it.
>
>I suppose I'll have to phone them up......

You can SORN on just a V5, it's only a tax disk that requires the
rest.

In message <ird40r$vh1$(E-Mail Removed)>, Krusty
<(E-Mail Removed)> writes
>
>Has it been taxed or sorn'd since sorn came in? If not, you don't need
>to worry about it.
>
Owned the frame since 2009 so it's possible that it was.

/Thinks
/Does 'vehicle enquiry'

It shows 'date of liability' as 1990

I rechecked with a couple of whole and newer vehicles I have and this
date coincides with the tax date.

So I guess that's why the system doesn't want to do an online SORN then?

Phew.
--
Mark Roberts

In message <ird454$vjf$(E-Mail Removed)>, cat <(E-Mail Removed)> writes

> A v5c should do that, shouldn't it?

I think you're right. There's a v890 you can pick up at the Post Office.

Drives me insane.
--
Mark Roberts

In message <(E-Mail Removed)>, ginge
<(E-Mail Removed)> writes

>You can SORN on just a V5, it's only a tax disk that requires the
>rest.

So why all the (inaccurate) bumph...
--
Mark Roberts

On Mon, 23 May 2011 09:41:58 +0100, mark <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>In message <(E-Mail Removed)>, ginge
><(E-Mail Removed)> writes
>
>>You can SORN on just a V5, it's only a tax disk that requires the
>>rest.
>
>So why all the (inaccurate) bumph...

I don't think it's inaccurate, just poorly worded.

The key bit is..
>using the reminder (Vehicle Licence Application/SORN
>Declaration) or the Registration Document/Certificate


Then to get a tax disk..

>together with the
>Insurance Certificate or Cover Note, MOT Test Certificate/GVT Test
>Certificate (if applicable)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
IYSWIM.

mark wrote:

> In message <ird40r$vh1$(E-Mail Removed)>, Krusty
> <(E-Mail Removed)> writes
> >
> > Has it been taxed or sorn'd since sorn came in? If not, you don't
> > need to worry about it.
> >
> Owned the frame since 2009 so it's possible that it was.
>
> /Thinks
> /Does 'vehicle enquiry'
>
> It shows 'date of liability' as 1990
>
> I rechecked with a couple of whole and newer vehicles I have and this
> date coincides with the tax date.
>
> So I guess that's why the system doesn't want to do an online SORN
> then?
>
> Phew.

Aye. Just leave it until you stick it back on the road then.

--
Krusty

Raptor 1000 MV 750 Senna Tiger 885 Fantic Hiro 250

"mark" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:X3zAV7AZ8g2NFw+(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> I've been working through my bits of vehicles that need sorn declaring
> despite them being just a chassis.
> I have a bare 400/4 frame than I can't do online.
>
> I get this message:
>
> Unable to Use Service
>
> Unfortunately, because of the tax class of the vehicle or recent changes
> to the vehicle record, you are currently unable to apply for a tax disc or
> declare SORN using this service.
>
> You will need to apply for the tax disc or declare SORN at a
> licence-issuing Post Office® or DVLA Local Office (as applicable for the
> vehicle) using the reminder (Vehicle Licence Application/SORN Declaration)
> or the Registration Document/Certificate together with the Insurance
> Certificate or Cover Note, MOT Test Certificate/GVT Test Certificate (if
> applicable) and fee.
>
> It appears to put me in an impossible situation.
> I don't have a reminder (it's never been anything but a frame when in my
> possession) just the registration documents.
> It certainly cant be MOT'd and there's no point insuring it.
>
> I suppose I'll have to phone them up......

Well I wouldn't. I'd just keep the bike and keep my gob shut.

--
Beav