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mike
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      10-19-2010, 07:22 PM
I bought an emergency generator..4-stroke gas.
The seller recommended putting Sta-Bil in the gas
'cause it'll be used rarely, if at all.

Any downside to the stuff?

Can/should I put it in the chainsaw/weedeater fuel-oil mix?

I haven't been putting any additives into the
83 Honda Shadow. Has those CV carbs with the
rubber diaphragms. I'm afraid of anything
that might eat them.

And what about float bowls? Should they be
drained? The gas will evaporate over the winter
anyway and leave gunk????yes???

So, what's the recommendation on storing gas-
powered equipment.

Thanks, mike
 
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      10-19-2010, 07:42 PM
On Oct 19, 12:22*pm, mike <spam...@go.com> wrote:
> I bought an emergency generator..4-stroke gas.
> The seller recommended putting Sta-Bil in the gas
> 'cause it'll be used rarely, if at all.
>
> Any downside to the stuff?


You can go to the Sta-Bil website and look at the Material Safety Data
Sheet for yourself, yannow...
 
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Kevin Bottorff
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      10-19-2010, 07:56 PM
"`" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in news:615ceaaa-c948-4107-a00f-
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> On Oct 19, 12:22*pm, mike <spam...@go.com> wrote:
>> I bought an emergency generator..4-stroke gas.
>> The seller recommended putting Sta-Bil in the gas
>> 'cause it'll be used rarely, if at all.
>>
>> Any downside to the stuff?

>
> You can go to the Sta-Bil website and look at the Material Safety Data
> Sheet for yourself, yannow...
>


Do not use that sta-bil crap on any small eng. I have had much fewer
problems since quiting its use. It may be fine for larger engs but I have
seen so many problems on the smaller stuff its nuts. If you want to use
something seafoam seems to work the best for storage or as I do it doubble
strength first tank of the season and good to go. KB
 
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      10-19-2010, 08:32 PM
Mark Olson wrote:
> mike wrote:
>> I bought an emergency generator..4-stroke gas.
>> The seller recommended putting Sta-Bil in the gas
>> 'cause it'll be used rarely, if at all.
>>
>> Any downside to the stuff?
>>
>> Can/should I put it in the chainsaw/weedeater fuel-oil mix?
>>
>> I haven't been putting any additives into the
>> 83 Honda Shadow. Has those CV carbs with the
>> rubber diaphragms. I'm afraid of anything
>> that might eat them.
>>
>> And what about float bowls? Should they be
>> drained? The gas will evaporate over the winter
>> anyway and leave gunk????yes???
>>
>> So, what's the recommendation on storing gas-
>> powered equipment.

>
> My 2 cents:
>
> Fill the tank all the way to the top with 'real' gasoline (no ethanol)
> mixed
> with the recommended amount of Sta-Bil. Don't go nuts and figure, if a
> little
> is good, more is better. Sta-Bil at the normal concentration won't hurt the
> diaphragms in your CV carbs. Not sure it does a whole lot of good
> anyway but
> it probably helps a little and doesn't do any harm. Using non-ethanol
> fuel is
> probably more important than whether you use a gasoline stabilizer or
> not, in
> my opinion.
>
> Drain the carbs. You are right, no matter what you mix with the gas it
> won't
> stop the lighter fractions from evaporating, leaving your carbs with a
> coating
> of goo that *will* clog up idle jets.


Where do you get REAL gasoline?
Everything here in Oregon seems to be ethanol mix.
 
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      10-19-2010, 08:35 PM
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> On Oct 19, 12:22 pm, mike <spam...@go.com> wrote:
>> I bought an emergency generator..4-stroke gas.
>> The seller recommended putting Sta-Bil in the gas
>> 'cause it'll be used rarely, if at all.
>>
>> Any downside to the stuff?

>
> You can go to the Sta-Bil website and look at the Material Safety Data
> Sheet for yourself, yannow...


Thanks,
I thought the MSDS was about toxicity.
Wasn't aware that it included comments from people who'd
actually used the stuff and
who weren't trying to sell you the stuff.
I'll check it out.
 
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      10-19-2010, 08:52 PM
Beryl <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> mike wrote:
>
> > Where do you get REAL gasoline?
> > Everything here in Oregon seems to be ethanol mix.

>
> At the airport.


Kerosene????

Oh, I suppose piston-engined aircraft still use 'proper' petrol. Good
call, then.


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      10-20-2010, 02:29 AM
On Oct 19, 1:35*pm, mike <spam...@go.com> wrote:

> Thanks,
> I thought the MSDS was about toxicity.
> Wasn't aware that it included comments from people who'd
> actually used the stuff and
> who weren't trying to sell you the stuff.
> I'll check it out.


Sta-Bil is 95% Naphtha. It's had hydrogen gas bubbled through it to
modifiy the molecule slightly and a red dye added to it.

Gasoline is refined naphtha. Your carburetors are designed to contain
gasoline 24/7/365.

How could Naphtha possibly harm your carburetors?

Read Section 10 for chemical reactivity and you'll learn not to mix
Sta-Bil with battery acid or hydrogen peroxide or nitric acid...

You weren't planning to do *that* were you?
 
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      10-20-2010, 06:01 AM
Beryl <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> So you guys are still useful for something!


<Proud>


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      10-20-2010, 12:12 PM
On Oct 19, 3:22*pm, mike <spam...@go.com> wrote:
> I bought an emergency generator..4-stroke gas.
> The seller recommended putting Sta-Bil in the gas
> 'cause it'll be used rarely, if at all.
>
> Any downside to the stuff?
>
> Can/should I put it in the chainsaw/weedeater fuel-oil mix?
>
> I haven't been putting any additives into the
> 83 Honda Shadow. *Has those CV carbs with the
> rubber diaphragms. *I'm afraid of anything
> that might eat them.
>
> And what about float bowls? *Should they be
> drained? *The gas will evaporate over the winter
> anyway and leave gunk????yes???
>
> So, what's the recommendation on storing gas-
> powered equipment.
>
> Thanks, mike


I have used Stabil for over twenty years in my motorcycles and small
engines for winterization

I have had about 8 motorcycles in that time and several lawnmowers and
whipper snippers .

NOT ONCE ~!! have I had any problems with restart in the spring , and
our winters are about 6-7 months long

Small engines are particularly prone to carb gumming but I have never
had a problem with them using Stabil.

The secret is using FRESH gas for a fillup in the fall and adding the
Stabil and running the machine for about ten minutes so that the
Stabil gets through the carb.

I have on occasion run the carbs dry on my bikes but most of the time
I dont bother and here in Ontario Canada the layup season is about 6
months long

I repeat ::: I HAVE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM ON RESTART IN THE SPRING ON
ANY OF MY EQUIPMENT.

If you feel the recommended amount of Stabil is not enough you can
safely add more as per the directions on the container
 
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      10-20-2010, 12:20 PM
On Oct 19, 11:01*pm, totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk (The Old Fag)
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> Beryl <fo...@road.net> wrote:
> > So you guys are still useful for something!

>
> <Proud>


That's what you said when asked to publicly admit you were gay.
 
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