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Stats on number of pre-licensed and learner riders ?

 
 
alx
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      09-15-2011, 02:41 PM
So where would I get stats (eg by postcode) of pre-licensed and
learner riders?

 
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DM
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      09-15-2011, 11:22 PM
alx <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> So where would I get stats (eg by postcode) of pre-licensed and
> learner riders?


You probably wouldn't.
I doubt anyone collates such information.


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      09-16-2011, 01:18 AM
On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 07:41:08 -0700 (PDT), alx
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>So where would I get stats (eg by postcode) of pre-licensed and
>learner riders?


You could try hospital admissions...


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Nev..
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      09-16-2011, 11:26 AM
On 16-Sep-11 9:22 AM, DM wrote:
> alx<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> So where would I get stats (eg by postcode) of pre-licensed and
>> learner riders?

>
> You probably wouldn't.
> I doubt anyone collates such information.


You don't think the licence issuing authorities ask where people live
when they issue them with licences?

Nev..
 
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      09-16-2011, 12:10 PM
"Nev.." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> On 16-Sep-11 9:22 AM, DM wrote:
>> alx<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>>> So where would I get stats (eg by postcode) of pre-licensed and
>>> learner riders?

>>
>> You probably wouldn't.
>> I doubt anyone collates such information.

>
> You don't think the licence issuing authorities ask where people live
> when they issue them with licences?


I'm sure the information exists inside government databases, but I doubt
anyone has written a query to extract licence type by postcode. They
would have to have a good business reason for doing so.

A marketing organisation might like to have this information, but doesn't
have access to the government database.

Privacy laws specify that data collected must be used only for the
purposes specified at time of collection. I can't remember anything about
selling my details to a marketing organisation, or even sharing them.

So, while the government certainly *collects* this information, I doubt
it *collates* it.


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George W Frost
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      09-16-2011, 01:08 PM

"DM" <d-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "Nev.." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> On 16-Sep-11 9:22 AM, DM wrote:
>>> alx<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>
>>>> So where would I get stats (eg by postcode) of pre-licensed and
>>>> learner riders?
>>>
>>> You probably wouldn't.
>>> I doubt anyone collates such information.

>>
>> You don't think the licence issuing authorities ask where people live
>> when they issue them with licences?

>
> I'm sure the information exists inside government databases, but I doubt
> anyone has written a query to extract licence type by postcode. They
> would have to have a good business reason for doing so.
>
> A marketing organisation might like to have this information, but doesn't
> have access to the government database.
>
> Privacy laws specify that data collected must be used only for the
> purposes specified at time of collection. I can't remember anything about
> selling my details to a marketing organisation, or even sharing them.
>
> So, while the government certainly *collects* this information, I doubt
> it *collates* it.
>
>
> --
> DM
> personal opinion only


I think, that if you asked VicRoads or any road authority if they had that
data, I am sure they would already have it somewhere.
It would be a very simple thing to do
they have the database of all learner riders, so extracting the postcode
would not be any trouble


 
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Nev..
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      09-16-2011, 01:12 PM
On 16-Sep-11 10:10 PM, DM wrote:
> "Nev.."<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> On 16-Sep-11 9:22 AM, DM wrote:
>>> alx<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>
>>>> So where would I get stats (eg by postcode) of pre-licensed and
>>>> learner riders?
>>>
>>> You probably wouldn't.
>>> I doubt anyone collates such information.

>>
>> You don't think the licence issuing authorities ask where people live
>> when they issue them with licences?

>
> I'm sure the information exists inside government databases, but I doubt
> anyone has written a query to extract licence type by postcode. They
> would have to have a good business reason for doing so.
>
> A marketing organisation might like to have this information, but doesn't
> have access to the government database.
>
> Privacy laws specify that data collected must be used only for the
> purposes specified at time of collection. I can't remember anything about
> selling my details to a marketing organisation, or even sharing them.
>
> So, while the government certainly *collects* this information, I doubt
> it *collates* it.


That's interesting but I don't think that collating generic information
about licence holders breaches any privacy guidelines. Every year
Vicroads and other traffic authorities release information about where
most car makes are registered, by postcode.
eg. http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/Ar...rticleID=54612

You might not give them express permission to use your personal
information, but that doesn't stop them from using generic
non-identifying information, such as the number of motorcycle learners
in a particular postcode. I'm sure they collate all sorts of
information for the ABS related to drivers and vehicles.

Nev..

 
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alx
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      09-17-2011, 01:35 AM
On Sep 16, 12:41*am, alx <some_dud_em...@mailinator.com> wrote:
> So where would I get stats (eg by postcode) of pre-licensed and
> learner riders?


I've only been able to find general stats, but none on pre/post
learner.

http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/in...&cat=Licensing

 
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George W Frost
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      09-17-2011, 05:19 AM

"Diogenes" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 07:41:08 -0700 (PDT), alx
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>So where would I get stats (eg by postcode) of pre-licensed and
>>learner riders?

>
> You could try hospital admissions...
>
>
> =================
>
> Onya bike
>
> Gerry


You would only know the psych ward Gerry.



 
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