Has anyone else looked into how this works? I can't believe that
anyone would design such a stupid, ill concieved system.

It seems that if your insurance expires, and the vehicle is still
taxed, you have to surrender the the disc and declare it SORN. You
can't keep a vehicle taxed but not insured, so If your insurance
expires while the tax is valid, and for whatever reason you don't want
to immediatley reinsure it, you have to go through all the trouble of
sending the tax disc back and then re taxing it when you reinsure it.

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring...ance/DG_186696

I'm sure they will be happy with the revenue it raises through people
misunderstanding the system.

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Speedgazebo

Speedgazebo MOTP #1 <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Has anyone else looked into how this works? I can't believe that
> anyone would design such a stupid, ill concieved system.
>
> It seems that if your insurance expires, and the vehicle is still
> taxed, you have to surrender the the disc and declare it SORN. You
> can't keep a vehicle taxed but not insured, so If your insurance
> expires while the tax is valid, and for whatever reason you don't want
> to immediatley reinsure it, you have to go through all the trouble of
> sending the tax disc back and then re taxing it when you reinsure it.
>
> http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring...ance/DG_186696
>
> I'm sure they will be happy with the revenue it raises through people
> misunderstanding the system.

Nothing to misunderstand - to have tax you must have insurance.

It makes fining people for no insurance a trivial paper exercise.

Even with 4 bikes and 3 personally owned cars, I can't say it's
something that's a concern for me.

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SteveH
http://www.justgiving.com/Steve-H

"SteveH" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:1k1ufuc.rj3ppv1kay44tN%(E-Mail Removed).. .
> Speedgazebo MOTP #1 <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> Has anyone else looked into how this works? I can't believe that
>> anyone would design such a stupid, ill concieved system.
>>
>> It seems that if your insurance expires, and the vehicle is still
>> taxed, you have to surrender the the disc and declare it SORN. You
>> can't keep a vehicle taxed but not insured, so If your insurance
>> expires while the tax is valid, and for whatever reason you don't want
>> to immediatley reinsure it, you have to go through all the trouble of
>> sending the tax disc back and then re taxing it when you reinsure it.
>>
>> http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring...ance/DG_186696
>>
>> I'm sure they will be happy with the revenue it raises through people
>> misunderstanding the system.
>
> Nothing to misunderstand - to have tax you must have insurance.
>
> It makes fining people for no insurance a trivial paper exercise.
>
> Even with 4 bikes and 3 personally owned cars, I can't say it's
> something that's a concern for me.


Seems entirely OTT since ANPR tells plod if the vehicle in front hasn't got
insurance.

Ian Field <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Seems entirely OTT since ANPR tells plod if the vehicle in front hasn't got
> insurance.

They don't even need to see the vehicle now - all they need to do is
cross-reference the databases and start sending out fines.

If said fines are ignored and a further cross-check shows the same
problem, they can send the tow truck and plod around to lift the car and
/ or owner.
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SteveH
http://www.justgiving.com/Steve-H

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember (E-Mail Removed) (SteveH)
saying something like:

>If said fines are ignored and a further cross-check shows the same
>problem, they can send the tow truck and plod around to lift the car and
>/ or owner.

I can see there being a few fisticuffs on driveways, in resentment at
the gross intrusion this represents.

Speedgazebo MOTP #1 wrote:

> Has anyone else looked into how this works? I can't believe that
> anyone would design such a stupid, ill concieved system.

It all seems perfectly reasonable to me.

--
Chris

On 25/05/2011 21:52, Speedgazebo MOTP #1 wrote:
> Has anyone else looked into how this works? I can't believe that
> anyone would design such a stupid, ill concieved system.
>
> It seems that if your insurance expires, and the vehicle is still
> taxed, you have to surrender the the disc and declare it SORN. You
> can't keep a vehicle taxed but not insured, so If your insurance
> expires while the tax is valid, and for whatever reason you don't want
> to immediatley reinsure it, you have to go through all the trouble of
> sending the tax disc back and then re taxing it when you reinsure it.
>
> http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring...ance/DG_186696
>
> I'm sure they will be happy with the revenue it raises through people
> misunderstanding the system.
>
> --
> Speedgazebo


I just SORNed my Trike on line and it didn't ask for the TAX disk to be
sent back

On May 26, 4:25*pm, Borg <saerim...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 25/05/2011 21:52, Speedgazebo MOTP #1 wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Has anyone else looked into how this works? I can't believe that
> > anyone would design such a stupid, ill concieved system.
>
> > It seems that if your insurance expires, and the vehicle is still
> > taxed, you have to surrender the the disc and declare it SORN. You
> > can't keep a vehicle taxed but not insured, so If your insurance
> > expires while the tax is valid, and for whatever reason you don't want
> > to immediatley reinsure it, you have to go through all the trouble of
> > sending the tax disc back and then re taxing it when you reinsure it.
>
> >http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring...orinsurance/DG...
>
> > I'm sure they will be happy with the revenue it raises through people
> > misunderstanding the system.
>
> > --
> > Speedgazebo
>
> I just SORNed my Trike on line and it didn't ask for the TAX disk to be
> sent back

You're goin' dahn....

--
Speedgazebo

On Thu, 26 May 2011 11:26:07 -0700 (PDT), "Speedgazebo MOTP #1"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>On May 26, 4:25*pm, Borg <saerim...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 25/05/2011 21:52, Speedgazebo MOTP #1 wrote:

>> I just SORNed my Trike on line and it didn't ask for the TAX disk to be
>> sent back
>
>You're goin' dahn....

he didn't say whether the tax had expired or not.
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