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Pip Luscher
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      12-02-2008, 10:30 PM
On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 08:43:47 -0800 (PST), "TOG@Toil"
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>On 1 Dec, 16:24, "." <yefelnag...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> But name just *one* Japanese design from the middle 1970's and up that
>> has *roller bearings* in the head.
>>
>> If you can be bothered to support your incessant *quibbling*, that is.

>
>Kawasaki ZX7R. Kawasaki ZX9R. Both do, at the camchain drive end.
>Possibly others as well, and I cba to check right now, but those two
>do for certain, and I know, because I've worked on 'em. Which,
>evidently, is more than you have.


If we include all bearings containing rolling components, SR500 and
(probably) derivatives had a camshaft supported in ballraces. Or are
we restricting this to rollers?

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      12-03-2008, 12:02 AM
On Dec 2, 2:30�pm, Pip Luscher <plusc...@live.invalid.co.uk> wrote:

> If we include all bearings containing rolling components, SR500 and
> (probably) derivatives had a camshaft supported in ballraces. Or are
> we restricting this to rollers?


*Who cares*? What will be gained by playing The Old Gasbag's game?

The original poster had a question about a 1980 CB750 DOHC, but the
Old Gasbag just had to trash the thread with exceptions and ridiculous
argument.

Like he always does...
 
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      12-03-2008, 07:22 AM
Pip Luscher <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 08:43:47 -0800 (PST), "TOG@Toil"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> >On 1 Dec, 16:24, "." <yefelnag...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> But name just *one* Japanese design from the middle 1970's and up that
> >> has *roller bearings* in the head.
> >>
> >> If you can be bothered to support your incessant *quibbling*, that is.

> >
> >Kawasaki ZX7R. Kawasaki ZX9R. Both do, at the camchain drive end.
> >Possibly others as well, and I cba to check right now, but those two
> >do for certain, and I know, because I've worked on 'em. Which,
> >evidently, is more than you have.

>
> If we include all bearings containing rolling components, SR500 and
> (probably) derivatives had a camshaft supported in ballraces. Or are
> we restricting this to rollers?


Well, I was taking ball races to mean 'rollers' in this conext, as
opposed to plain bearings, and having owned an SR500 I know what you say
is true. And the XS650 used them as well, but Krusty *did* say "just
*one* Japanese design from the middle 1970's and up", so I deliberately
didn't name them.


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      12-03-2008, 07:22 AM
.. <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> *Who cares*?


You do, remember? You got all shouty and issued a challenge and...

It was taken up.

And now you're getting even more petulant because you've been made to
look an idiot. Which, it has to be said, happens frequently.

I mean: "Lighter vehicles are sprung more rigidly than touring sedans".
What a load of *******s.

> The original poster had a question about a 1980 CB750 DOHC


He did. Which I answered succinctly and correctly, and which you didn't.

What's your next point?


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      12-03-2008, 01:17 PM
On Dec 2, 11:22�pm, totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk (The Older
Gentleman) wrote:

> What's your next point?


My point is that you were an exceptional child, bored with your school
work and always seeking alternative amusement or demanding attention
from the beleaguered teacher.

Nowadays that would be called "attention deficit disorder", or ADD.

And you grew up to be an exceptional adult, a pain-in-the-ass who is
always looking for a tedious exception to every generality just to
draw attention to himself.

Adult Attention Deficit Disorder...

I suppose we will now see this thread mushroom out to fifty or a
hundred
useless messages, instead of dying from disinterest.

Why couldn't you just have a passion for philately combined with Zen?

You needn't answer that rhetorical question.


 
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      12-03-2008, 01:32 PM
On 3 Dec, 13:17, "." <yefelnag...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Dec 2, 11:22 pm, totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk (The Older
>
> Gentleman) wrote:
> > What's your next point?

>
> My point is that you were an exceptional child,


<Snip>

Troo.....

Do you see what a complete arse you are making of yourself? Obviously
not, so:

1. OP asked a decent tech question.

2. I provided a decent tech answer, which was entirely correct and was
later substantiated by another poster, from personal experience.

3. You posted reams of irrelevant waffle and didn't answer the
question at all.

4. I pointed out the irrelevance of your reply, added a very brief
throwaway line about camshafts, and reiterated my advice to the OP.

5. You jumped down my throat, wittering on about 1960s Hondas, and
demanding evidence of a 'modern bike' using the sort of cam bearings I
carelessly mentioned.

6. Said evidence was provided.

7. To try and cover your imbecility and ignorance, you then started
squealing that this was irrelevant to the OP's bike, conveniently
ignoring the fact that (a) you had issued the challenge in the first
place and (b) that the OP's bike question had been settled right at
the start of the thread.

8. And now you accuse me again of causing the thread to divert from
the OP's question. See (7) above.

You are a sad, sad, frustrated, hate-filled, warped, perverted,
ignorant, stupid little waste of spermatazoa. Sorry, but it has to be
said :-)

 
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      12-03-2008, 02:34 PM
On Dec 3, 5:32�am, "TOG@Toil" <totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> 6. Said evidence was provided.


Oh, and while the king was looking down,
The jester stole his thorny crown.
The courtroom was adjourned;
No verdict was returned.
And while Lennon read a book on Marx,
The quartet practiced in the park,
And we sang dirges in the dark
The day the music died.

> You are a sad, sad, frustrated, hate-filled, warped, perverted,
> ignorant, stupid little waste of spermatazoa.


99.9999999% of all spermatzoons fail to perform their task, but the
world was cursed with The Old Gasbag.

> Sorry, but it has to be said :-)


Take your soap box to Speakers Corner and rave at the crowd.

 
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      12-03-2008, 03:37 PM
On 3 Dec, 14:34, "." <yefelnag...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Dec 3, 5:32 am, "TOG@Toil" <totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>

<snip>

And again, the last resort: childish insults. You really need a better
scriptwriter <G>.
 
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      12-05-2008, 07:56 PM
On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 07:22:04 +0000, (E-Mail Removed) (The
Older Gentleman) wrote:

>Well, I was taking ball races to mean 'rollers' in this conext, as
>opposed to plain bearings, and having owned an SR500 I know what you say
>is true. And the XS650 used them as well, but Krusty *did* say "just
>*one* Japanese design from the middle 1970's and up", so I deliberately
>didn't name them.


Ah. In retrospect, I replied to the wrong person. It made sense at the
time, honest.

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      12-05-2008, 08:20 PM
On Dec 5, 11:56�am, Pip Luscher <plusc...@live.invalid.co.uk> wrote:

> Ah. In retrospect, I replied to the wrong person. It made sense at the
> time, honest.


Next time you see TOG humping somebody's leg, just remember what
Randy Quaid told Chevy Chase.

"It's best to just let him finish what he's doing."

 
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