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obakesan
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      08-24-2011, 12:55 AM
Hi

I have a 2001 t-max and wanted to consider syncing the carbs on it
myself. Never done it before but as the local dealer seems not to know
how I thought I'd ask anyone here if they thought it was straight
foward

thanks
 
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Capt_about_lunchtime
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      08-24-2011, 05:33 AM

"obakesan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Hi
>
> I have a 2001 t-max and wanted to consider syncing the carbs on it
> myself. Never done it before but as the local dealer seems not to know
> how I thought I'd ask anyone here if they thought it was straight
> foward
>
> thanks


I started to answer this thinking you'd brought a V Max. When I checked to
see if there was such a thing as a T Max I shuddered
How many carbs does it have? I'd guess no more than two and if so should be
a piece of p*#s to sync.

I've done plenty of twins and singles by ear And I reckon any competent
Bike Tech could do them, either with or without vacuum gauges. Though if
you're paying the man you'd expect him/her to have vacuum gauges to perform
such a task.

My armature backyard loser method is as follows, many may disagree. ( with
the method )

1 Get the bike, do you regard your T Max as a bike, to operating temp.
2 Wind the idle screw in on Carb no 1and out on Carb no 2 so that the
"Bike" is not far off stalling
3 Wind the mixture screw on Carb 1 in or out until you reach the highest
idle speed attainable
4 Wind the idle speed in on Carb 2 and out on Carb 1, again such that the
"Bike" is not far off stalling, and play with carb 2's mixture till you find
the fastest idle
5 Adjust both idle screws to achieve a steady idle with both cylinders
running evenly
6 Adjust the throttle cables such that the slides or butterflies are
operating together and you have the required slack at the throttle grip.
7 Take the "bike" for a run and repeat if necessary
8 Put the T Max on EBay and buy a V Max

Vacume guages will probably make the task easier as you wont have to worry
about adjusting the idle speeds to find the correct mixture position but
reading them can propose a new set of challenges, not to mention expense.

Naturally nothing's simple the first time and you may have to have a few
goes to get it right. You cant learn familluarity from a book, and I cant
spell.
Be warned running for periods on a too lean mixture will cause overheating,
piston failure and my cause personal and property injury and/or loss of
life. Too rich will foul plugs increase engine wear and increase fuel
consumption. It should be assumed that, regarding the above directions
along with this entire post, that I am an idiot with absolutely no
mechanical training or expertise. Always seek advise from a qualified
independent expert before performing any task associated with anything. And
remember SPEED KILLS, can you speed on a T Max?

If you're basically mechanically competent buy yourself a manual and have a
go. There's only mixture and idle speed to play with. Assuming a PO hasn't
played around with jet sizes and/or needle heights. Even if this is the
case, unlikely, the manual should give you the std. sizes and positions to
use as a starting point.

If not find another bike shop. Maybe find another bike shop anyway.

And check out the V Max, surely a better proposition.

Capt A. L.


 
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obakesan
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      08-24-2011, 06:58 AM
Hi


> I started to answer this thinking you'd brought a V Max. *When I checked to
> see if there was such a thing as a T Max I shuddered


;-)

don't tell my friends

> How many carbs does it have? *I'd guess no more than two and if so should be


two, its a 500cc paralell twin (an I kant spell neither)


> a piece of p*#s to sync.


great ... I'll go grab a can of VB

>
> I've done plenty of twins and singles by ear *And I reckon any competent
> Bike Tech could do them, either with or without vacuum gauges. *Though if
> you're paying the man you'd expect him/her to have vacuum gauges to perform
> such a task.


the task of finding a competent person on the GC is proving difficult
thus I'm attempting it


> 1 *Get the bike, do you regard your T Max as a bike, to operating temp.


no, I regard it as a scoot ... although one could argue its a
bike ...

http://cjeastwd.blogspot.com/2010/07/big-scoots.html



> Vacume guages will probably make the task easier as you wont have to worry
> about adjusting the idle speeds to find the correct mixture position but
> reading them can propose a new set of challenges, not to mention expense.


about $150 or so on ebay it seems

>
> Naturally nothing's simple the first time and you may have to have a few
> goes to get it right. *You cant learn familluarity from a book,


sure, I'm expecting after I've fcked with it a few times I'll get the
hang of it


> Be warned running for periods on a too lean mixture will cause overheating,
> piston failure and my cause personal and property injury and/or loss of
> life. *Too rich will foul plugs increase engine wear and increase fuel
> consumption. *It should be assumed that, regarding the above directions



plugs looked quite good when I changed them

> independent expert before performing any task associated with anything. *And
> remember SPEED KILLS, can you speed on a T Max?


I've seen speeds on the GPS which would put me in prison in Australia
had I done them on public roads

>
> If you're basically mechanically competent buy yourself a manual and havea
> go. There's only mixture and idle speed to play with.


that's encouraging

> If not find another bike shop. *Maybe find another bike shop anyway.
>
> And check out the V Max, surely a better proposition.


always like the V ... but can't justify yet another rego ... now if I
could have a registration based on which one goes on the road I'd have
a stable

thanks for your help
 
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      08-24-2011, 09:47 AM
On Wed, 24 Aug 2011 15:33:13 +1000, "Capt_about_lunchtime"
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>"obakesan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:aab99bec-069a-4a7a-aed2-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Hi
>>
>> I have a 2001 t-max and wanted to consider syncing the carbs on it
>> myself. Never done it before but as the local dealer seems not to know
>> how I thought I'd ask anyone here if they thought it was straight
>> foward


>How many carbs does it have? I'd guess no more than two and if so should be
>a piece of p*#s to sync.


It's got EFI.

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Onya bike

Gerry
 
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      08-24-2011, 12:33 PM

"> >> I have a 2001 t-max and wanted to consider syncing the carbs on it
> >> myself. Never done it before but as the local dealer seems not to know
> >> how I thought I'd ask anyone here if they thought it was straight
> >> foward

>
> >How many carbs does it have? I'd guess no more than two and if so should

be
> >a piece of p*#s to sync.

>
> It's got EFI.



It has now but it didn't in 2001

Possiably why few can tune it........ Carbu-what -retor? Where do you plug
in the Power Commander?

Capt A.L


 
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      08-24-2011, 11:00 PM
On 24/08/2011 10:33 PM, Capt_about_lunchtime wrote:
> "> >> I have a 2001 t-max and wanted to consider syncing the carbs on it
>>>> myself. Never done it before but as the local dealer seems not to know
>>>> how I thought I'd ask anyone here if they thought it was straight
>>>> foward

>>
>>> How many carbs does it have? I'd guess no more than two and if so should

> be
>>> a piece of p*#s to sync.

>>
>> It's got EFI.

>
>
> It has now but it didn't in 2001
>
> Possiably why few can tune it........ Carbu-what -retor? Where do you plug
> in the Power Commander?
>
> Capt A.L
>
>



I'm o expert on bikes with twin carbs but I did have a cortina super
stocker that had triple side-draft webbers. If you have ever played with
those beasts you would know that they can be a PITA to set up but magic
when tuned well (ask anyone with a classic charger). A garden hose is
used to make sure that both carbs have the same note, so do all of the
above and then check their tune. Easter Bunnies Get Drunk At Easter type
of thing, to make sure they sound the same.

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