I have a .pdf copy of the Ulysses Club's response to the 'safety' strategy
working paper, but in my advancing senility I can't remember how to put it
on a website.

Anyone interested in putting it on a site? It's 60kb.

--
Conehead
Nugget my starfish, you burly oafs!

Email it to aaronkylieatsitedotcomdotau

Aaron
ZX6R


"conehead" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I have a .pdf copy of the Ulysses Club's response to the 'safety' strategy
> working paper, but in my advancing senility I can't remember how to put it
> on a website.
>
> Anyone interested in putting it on a site? It's 60kb.
>
> --
> Conehead
> Nugget my starfish, you burly oafs!
>
>

Thanks, Aaron. Has been done.

--
Conehead
Nugget my starfish, you burly oafs!

"Aaron & Kylie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Email it to aaronkylieatsitedotcomdotau
>
> Aaron
> ZX6R
>
>
> "conehead" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:boaim5$1cjbjp$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > I have a .pdf copy of the Ulysses Club's response to the 'safety'
strategy
> > working paper, but in my advancing senility I can't remember how to put
it
> > on a website.
> >
> > Anyone interested in putting it on a site? It's 60kb.
> >
> > --
> > Conehead
> > Nugget my starfish, you burly oafs!
> >
> >
>
>

Done.

http://203.144.22.76/stuff/Tasmanian%20Strategy2.pdf

Aaron
ZX6R


"conehead" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I have a .pdf copy of the Ulysses Club's response to the 'safety' strategy
> working paper, but in my advancing senility I can't remember how to put it
> on a website.
>
> Anyone interested in putting it on a site? It's 60kb.
>
> --
> Conehead
> Nugget my starfish, you burly oafs!
>
>

conehead wrote:
>
> I have a .pdf copy of the Ulysses Club's response to the 'safety' strategy
> working paper, but in my advancing senility I can't remember how to put it
> on a website.

You'd reckon they'd run a spell checker over it before they submitted it.

Signed off by the Ulysses club national vice president Neville Grey. The same
Ulysses club national vice president Neville Grey who flew from Adelaide to
Melbourne to consult with the Victorian Government shortly before they
announced the introduction of the $50 motorcycle levy and then published
comments on the Ulysses club website saying that the Victorian riders should
accept the levy as inevitable and stop whinging. When are you old farts going
to get rid of him?

Nev..
'03 ZX12R
'02 CBR1100XX

Nev.. wrote:

<snip>

> Signed off by the Ulysses club national vice president Neville Grey. The same
> Ulysses club national vice president Neville Grey who flew from Adelaide to
> Melbourne to consult with the Victorian Government shortly before they
> announced the introduction of the $50 motorcycle levy and then published
> comments on the Ulysses club website saying that the Victorian riders should
> accept the levy as inevitable and stop whinging. When are you old farts going
> to get rid of him?

Dunno.

Although I am a card-carrying Old Fart, I have no input into the
democratic processes of running the Ulysses Club.
(Not that I'm complaining.)

Lets get serious about this, tho. The Vic $50 thing was pretty much
inevitable. We (as in motorcyclists) are a fairly insignificant minority
of the population. Even within that minority, we have widely differing
views on just about anything. We are not very organised in a political
sense, and most of us just want to ride our bikes.
So governments can basically do what they like to us.

What, exactly, did you expect the U.C. to do about it?

What would you have done in Neville Grey's place?

regards,
CrazyCam

"Nev.." wrote:
>
> When are you old farts going
> to get rid of him?

I joined Ulysses to go riding. IMHO it has too much bureaucratic
overhead anyhow. If it never did a political thing in its life I'd be
well pleased.

I can have much better politicial input through other mechanisms.

Cheers
Goaty
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CrazyCam wrote:

> Nev.. wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> > Signed off by the Ulysses club national vice president Neville Grey. The same
> > Ulysses club national vice president Neville Grey who flew from Adelaide to
> > Melbourne to consult with the Victorian Government shortly before they
> > announced the introduction of the $50 motorcycle levy and then published
> > comments on the Ulysses club website saying that the Victorian riders should
> > accept the levy as inevitable and stop whinging. When are you old farts going
> > to get rid of him?
>
> Dunno.
>
> Although I am a card-carrying Old Fart, I have no input into the
> democratic processes of running the Ulysses Club.
> (Not that I'm complaining.)
>
> Lets get serious about this, tho. The Vic $50 thing was pretty much
> inevitable. We (as in motorcyclists) are a fairly insignificant minority
> of the population. Even within that minority, we have widely differing
> views on just about anything. We are not very organised in a political
> sense, and most of us just want to ride our bikes.
> So governments can basically do what they like to us.

Strange point of view from someone who is (unless I am mistaken) a
representative on the NSW MCC. Why then do you support the input the NSW MCC
has in steering government policy instead of just rolling over and taking
whatever is inevitable up the clacker? So you'd support the introduction of a
$50 levy in NSW?

> What, exactly, did you expect the U.C. to do about it?

Represent the best interests of their members? Shown solidarity with other
motorcycling organisations in the state? Not partaken in secret talks with
politicians?

> What would you have done in Neville Grey's place?

I dunno, should they consult with the members to find out what the clubs
position should be? As I understand it, Neville Grey may have been the only
motorcycling organisation representative which the Victorian Government
consulted before introducing the levy - probably because he represented the
greatest proportion of riders in the state. (They may have also consulted one
on one with the then president of the MRAA however he has since passed away).

Nev..
'03 ZX12R
'02 CBR1100XX

"Nev.." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
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>
> CrazyCam wrote:
>
>> What would you have done in Neville Grey's place?
>
> I dunno, should they consult with the members to find out what the
> clubs position should be?

It was explained to me, in no uncertain terms, both times I've been to a
Ulysses meeting, that Ulysses is not about politics. In my experience, the
members say (many expressions to the effect of) "**** Politics!"

So, in Nev's terms, they deliberately set out to, actually want to "just
rolling over and taking whatever is inevitable up the clacker."

Strangely enough, Ulysses himself was no shrinking violet in the overtly
political world of the Late Bronze Age. Anyone remember how he dealt with
the suitors?

Gary

--
Don't have a local servo any more :-/

Gary Woodman wrote:
>
> "Nev.." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> news:(E-Mail Removed):
> >
> > CrazyCam wrote:
> >
> >> What would you have done in Neville Grey's place?
> >
> > I dunno, should they consult with the members to find out what the
> > clubs position should be?
>
> It was explained to me, in no uncertain terms, both times I've been to a
> Ulysses meeting, that Ulysses is not about politics. In my experience, the
> members say (many expressions to the effect of) "**** Politics!"
>
> So, in Nev's terms, they deliberately set out to, actually want to "just
> rolling over and taking whatever is inevitable up the clacker."

Yes I have always understood this to be the case Gary, which only goes to make
it all the more puzzling why the national vice president flew to Melbourne to
hold consultations with the Victorian Government prior to the introduction of
the $50 levy.

Nev..
'03 ZX12R
'02 CBR1100XX