http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7271462.stm

First they said the tax you have to pay to get into London was a
"Congestion Charge". That lie went out the window when they put it up
for so-called "gas-guzzlers". So they rebranded it a "Green charge" to
make polluters pay.

Then they remove the exemption for LPG vehicles.

So now they've stopped the *******s and are (tacitly) finally admitting
that it's a simple money-raising tax.

How long before bikes lose their exemption?

--
Wicked Uncle Nigel - "He's hopeless, but he's honest"

My position was (and, to be honest, largely remains) one of complete ambiguity.

On Mar 4, 3:42 pm, Wicked Uncle Nigel <w...@wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk>
wrote:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7271462.stm
>
> First they said the tax you have to pay to get into London was a
> "Congestion Charge". That lie went out the window when they put it up
> for so-called "gas-guzzlers". So they rebranded it a "Green charge" to
> make polluters pay.
>
> Then they remove the exemption for LPG vehicles.
>
> So now they've stopped the *******s and are (tacitly) finally admitting
> that it's a simple money-raising tax.
>
> How long before bikes lose their exemption?

whenever he thinks he can get away with it. I see Porsche are
considering taking legal action, BTW (no, really)

on a similar subject, I see Boris is talking about allowing bikes in
bus lanes.

--
d.

Wicked Uncle Nigel wrote:

> So now they've stopped the *******s and are (tacitly) finally
> admitting that it's a simple money-raising tax.

What did you expect from Ken?

> How long before bikes lose their exemption?

Not long, IWHT.

--
Chris

On Mar 4, 3:42 pm, Wicked Uncle Nigel <w...@wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk>
wrote:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7271462.stm
>
> First they said the tax you have to pay to get into London was a
> "Congestion Charge".
>
> So now they've stopped the *******s and are (tacitly) finally admitting
> that it's a simple money-raising tax.

And you're surprised that politicians a duplicitous?

> How long before bikes lose their exemption?

As soon as the use of bikes is seen to be losing to much revenue.

--
Ian

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Boots
<(E-Mail Removed)> typed
>On Mar 4, 3:42 pm, Wicked Uncle Nigel <w...@wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk>
>wrote:
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7271462.stm
>>
>> First they said the tax you have to pay to get into London was a
>> "Congestion Charge".
>>
>> So now they've stopped the *******s and are (tacitly) finally admitting
>> that it's a simple money-raising tax.
>
>And you're surprised that politicians a duplicitous?

I'm (slightly) surprised by the timing of this particular announcement.
I would have expected it just after the election.

--
Wicked Uncle Nigel - "He's hopeless, but he's honest"

My position was (and, to be honest, largely remains) one of complete ambiguity.

On 4 Mar, 16:09, Boots <bo...@despammed.com> wrote:
> On Mar 4, 3:42 pm, Wicked Uncle Nigel <w...@wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk>
> wrote:
>
> >http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7271462.stm
>
> > First they said the tax you have to pay to get into London was a
> > "Congestion Charge".
>
> > So now they've stopped the *******s and are (tacitly) finally admitting
> > that it's a simple money-raising tax.
>
> And you're surprised that politicians a duplicitous?
>
> > How long before bikes lose their exemption?
>
> As soon as the use of bikes is seen to be losing to much revenue.
>

Does anybody use a bike to travel into the City these days? As opposed
to the West End or elsewhere, I mean? I had to go in yesterday, and
couldn't find a bike bay for love nor money. Am I right in assuming
they've taken them all out "for anti-terrorism reasons"?

I did find one, finally, just off Eastcheap, after circling Cannon
Street, Mansion House Street, etc etc for 10 minutes. Played the usual
"shift-a-scooter" game and parked the 125. But I can't see how to
commute to the City except by public transport, now.

darsy wrote:
> on a similar subject, I see Boris is talking about allowing bikes in
> bus lanes.

bikes are already allowed in lots of bus lanes in london.
--
dog
sl1000 two#5 pwcram#3

TOG@Toil wrote:
> Does anybody use a bike to travel into the City these days? As opposed
> to the West End or elsewhere, I mean? I had to go in yesterday, and
> couldn't find a bike bay for love nor money. Am I right in assuming
> they've taken them all out "for anti-terrorism reasons"?

plenty of people. usually me, but not right at the minute as i got
smidsied last week and the bike is awaiting insurance engineer inspection.

> I did find one, finally, just off Eastcheap, after circling Cannon
> Street, Mansion House Street, etc etc for 10 minutes. Played the usual
> "shift-a-scooter" game and parked the 125. But I can't see how to
> commute to the City except by public transport, now.

ah, you mean parked in public bays? most of the on-street bays are
occupied by about 7:30, mostly by scooters as you say, but there are also
underground and private parking bays which are more favoured by bikers
as they're more secure.
--
dog
sl1000 two#5 pwcram#3

darsy <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> on a similar subject, I see Boris is talking about allowing bikes in
> bus lanes.

And about time too, bikes have _always_ been allowed in bus lanes in Brizzle.
TBH, I was rather surprised that the big smoke does not allow them.

On 4 Mar, 16:37, dog <d...@dev.null> wrote:
> TOG@Toil wrote:
> > *Does anybody use a bike to travel into the City these days? As opposed
> > *to the West End or elsewhere, I mean? I had to go in yesterday, and
> > *couldn't find a bike bay for love nor money. Am I right in assuming
> > *they've taken them all out "for anti-terrorism reasons"?
>
> plenty of people. usually me, but not right at the minute as i got
> smidsied last week and the bike is awaiting insurance engineer inspection.
>
> > *I did find one, finally, just off Eastcheap, after circling Cannon
> > *Street, Mansion House Street, etc etc for 10 minutes. Played the usual
> > *"shift-a-scooter" game and parked the 125. But I can't see how to
> > *commute to the City except by public transport, now.
>
> ah, you mean parked in public bays? most of the on-street bays are
> occupied by about 7:30, mostly by scooters as you say, but there are also
> underground and private parking bays which are more favoured by bikers
> as they're more secure.

No, the point is that I couldn't find a single bay, occupied or not.
Not all the way from Blackfriars Bridge to the far end of Cannon
Street, anyway.