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Chris Ryan
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      02-21-2004, 11:38 AM
Was just looking at the WSBK Calender and it doesn't look like they're
going to go to Sugo this year. That's usually one of the more
interesting rounds with the strong wild cards mixing it up with the
locals. Anyone know why they canned this round, can only think it's
cos all the Jap bike companies have pulled their factory efforts from
WSBK.

Cheers

Chris
 
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Baron Von Rotter
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      02-21-2004, 07:28 PM
Have they deemed the track unsafe?


Chris Ryan wrote:
> Was just looking at the WSBK Calender and it doesn't look like they're
> going to go to Sugo this year. That's usually one of the more
> interesting rounds with the strong wild cards mixing it up with the
> locals. Anyone know why they canned this round, can only think it's
> cos all the Jap bike companies have pulled their factory efforts from
> WSBK.
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris


 
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Chris Ryan
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      02-22-2004, 08:48 AM
Baron Von Rotter <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<4037bdc2$0$27651$(E-Mail Removed). com.au>...
> Have they deemed the track unsafe?


Not that I have heard, I know that Suzuka was canned this year due to
safety concerns.

Oh well.

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Fwoar
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      02-22-2004, 09:53 AM
Tyres.

Dunlop own Sugo. WSB run Pirelli's i

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"Chris Ryan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Was just looking at the WSBK Calender and it doesn't look like they're
> going to go to Sugo this year. That's usually one of the more
> interesting rounds with the strong wild cards mixing it up with the
> locals. Anyone know why they canned this round, can only think it's
> cos all the Jap bike companies have pulled their factory efforts from
> WSBK.
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris



 
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Fwoar
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      02-22-2004, 09:53 AM
Tyres.

Dunlop own Sugo. WSB run Pirelli's i

--
Daron

ebay? - http://tinyurl.com/ykgh

"Chris Ryan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Was just looking at the WSBK Calender and it doesn't look like they're
> going to go to Sugo this year. That's usually one of the more
> interesting rounds with the strong wild cards mixing it up with the
> locals. Anyone know why they canned this round, can only think it's
> cos all the Jap bike companies have pulled their factory efforts from
> WSBK.
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris



 
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      02-22-2004, 10:26 AM
Chris Ryan wrote:
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> Baron Von Rotter <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<4037bdc2$0$27651$(E-Mail Removed). com.au>...
> > Have they deemed the track unsafe?

>
> Not that I have heard, I know that Suzuka was canned this year due to
> safety concerns.


Probably more likely a case of "if you're not going to enter factory teams in
our competition we're not going to run an event in your company" kind of
thing... and most of the Japanese tracks are owned by the motor companies
aren't they? On the SBK website there's still one TBA round vacant...

Nev..
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TB
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      02-22-2004, 11:20 AM
"Fwoar" wrote.
> Tyres.
>
> Dunlop own Sugo. WSB run Pirelli's i
>
> --
> Daron


You can bring your bikes, but you can't bring your tyres?

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      02-23-2004, 03:00 AM
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TB wrote in message <40389e99$0$22502$(E-Mail Removed)>. ..
>"Fwoar" wrote.
>> Tyres.
>>
>> Dunlop own Sugo. WSB run Pirelli's i

>
>You can bring your bikes, but you can't bring your tyres?
>

No, you can only bring the bikes and tyres (and fuel and signage and helmets
and leathers etc etc..) that are homologated by SBK (under the FIM).
There's lots and lots of rules that the bikes must comply with and there's a
few that the tyres must comply with... one of which is that they must be
supplied by Pirelli (who bought the rights to the WSB and the WSS).
Clem


 
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      02-23-2004, 03:40 AM
Interesting thing with Pirelli tyres from an insiders view of the tyre
ruling & package.

Pirelli want EUR4000 for the tyres per round from all teams (including
wildcards)- that equates to about AU$6200.

The package includes 11 Fronts & 16 Rears which is the limit for all riders.
This isn't too bad IF you use all 26 tyres. . AU$238 / tyre

Bearing in mind that this is rubber that we can't get in Australia & rears
are in 16.5" - not 17" which Australian Superbikes run so you have to find
the wheels to run the tyres on first. As well as find out about the tyres
that you are going to race on

So you think that a pretty reasonable cost? If you use 8 rears & 5 Fronts
over the weekend, the cost is still EUR4000 @ AU$500/tyre

The price goes up the less tyres that you use etc etc. Why use a tyre if you
don't have to?

As these are *special* Pirelli tyres that are brought in for the meeting,
they all have to go back to Pirelli for testing. You can't keep them due to
Australian Import laws etc etc so you have to give them back.

This is the situation with the Australian Wildcard riders - Maxwell, Tozer &
Normoyle

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"Knobdoodle" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> X-No-archive: yes
> TB wrote in message <40389e99$0$22502$(E-Mail Removed)>. ..
> >"Fwoar" wrote.
> >> Tyres.
> >>
> >> Dunlop own Sugo. WSB run Pirelli's i

> >
> >You can bring your bikes, but you can't bring your tyres?
> >

> No, you can only bring the bikes and tyres (and fuel and signage and

helmets
> and leathers etc etc..) that are homologated by SBK (under the FIM).
> There's lots and lots of rules that the bikes must comply with and there's

a
> few that the tyres must comply with... one of which is that they must be
> supplied by Pirelli (who bought the rights to the WSB and the WSS).
> Clem
>
>



 
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      02-23-2004, 03:47 AM
Fwoar wrote:

> As these are *special* Pirelli tyres that are brought in for the meeting,
> they all have to go back to Pirelli for testing. You can't keep them due to
> Australian Import laws etc etc so you have to give them back.
>
> This is the situation with the Australian Wildcard riders - Maxwell, Tozer &
> Normoyle


So does this mean you're taking a few sharp knives along to the track and
checking the tyres for puncture resistance before handing them back to
Pirelli?

Nev..
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