£ island - Public Health Announcement

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by boxerboy, Oct 31, 2009.

  1. boxerboy

    boxerboy Guest

    BMW Club journal arrived today. Small item in it states that the
    reciprocal agreement on health care between IOM and the mainland will
    be withdrawn on 1 April 2010. This, according to the article, means
    that everything other than initial emergency treatment will cost you.
    The IOM is not in the EU so waving your E101 will do no good
    apparently. Seems the only route is health insurance. Not sure how
    easy or cheap that will be if you are racing.

    boxerboy, Oct 31, 2009
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  2. It's all Champ's fault, apparently.
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Oct 31, 2009
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  3. The same has happened with the channel islands as well
    steve robinson, Oct 31, 2009
  4. Blimey. That's a bit steep, innit? I wonder how well that's going to be
    publicised before the 2010 TT.
    The Older Gentleman, Oct 31, 2009
  5. If its anything like the channel islands it wasnt publicised , 9
    stitches , dressings , jabs and painkillers £600.00 including the
    consulting fee
    steve robinson, Oct 31, 2009
  6. boxerboy

    Eiron Guest

    So which costs more, fixing broken bikers in Douglas
    or tax-exiles' heart surgery in Liverpool?
    And which side cancelled the agreement?
    Eiron, Oct 31, 2009
  7. Not sure about Alderney but Jersey and Guernsey used to cover you for
    hospital treatment until April this year but you had to pay to see
    the GP

    It was cheaper to catch the ferry as a foot passenger and visit one
    in Weymouth
    steve robinson, Oct 31, 2009
  8. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Champ
    If they have any sense[1], they'll point out that if they're not
    covered, they're not coming out to play?

    [1] TT riders? What am I saying? :^)
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Oct 31, 2009
  9. boxerboy

    Ben Guest

    Surely it's not travel insurance for them? After all, it's their
    Ben, Nov 1, 2009
  10. **** that; I'd rather do it myself.
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Nov 1, 2009
  11. Hmm.. I scent a possible back door action by elements who don't want the
    TT to continue.
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Nov 1, 2009
  12. boxerboy

    Pete Fisher Guest

    Presumably the insurance element of the entry fee will not be of any use
    either. I know the ACU don't organise the races anymore, but are they
    are still held under an ACU permit? Perhaps the Manx Motorcycle Racing
    club can arrange personal injury cover for competitors at reasonable
    rates. As to spectators, it will be a job for 'holiday insurance' which
    covers riding a bike. I wonder if the providers might catch on and start
    loading premiums for IoM cover?

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  13. boxerboy

    YTC#1 Guest

    Pay for any injuries themselves ?

    It is their choice to throw themselves down the road at hight speed,
    they should not expect others to pay.
    YTC#1, Nov 1, 2009
  14. boxerboy

    boots Guest

    So where do you suggest it stops then? What's an acceptable level of
    risk. It's a bit odd because the island no longer has a reciprocal
    agreement but in general I'd assume they'd paid in the same way every
    other citizen has.
    boots, Nov 1, 2009
  15. boxerboy

    YTC#1 Guest

    My point is that you should not expect others to pay for your risk taking.

    It is a touch selfish.

    When I travel abroad I take out medical cover and always try to ensure I
    am covered for accidents etc.

    In the UK , I pay my taxes.
    YTC#1, Nov 1, 2009
  16. boxerboy

    Ben Guest

    Well, I'll be relying on my work personal health insurance for next
    year's trip, which apparently covers me for such larks as the
    Nurburgring because I checked.

    I must remember to make a post about it to the UKRM TT2010 mailing
    Ben, Nov 1, 2009
  17. boxerboy

    Pete Fisher Guest

    Ours. The tax-exiles will still be OK it seems as long as it is a
    pre-planned referral.

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  18. boxerboy

    YTC#1 Guest

    Not quite getting my point across am I :)

    Its the indignation that seems to surround the fact that people feel it
    is reasonable to expect the residents of the IOM to pay for any medical

    People are so used to the EU and the E111 scheme, with reciprocal
    agreements for costs.

    In the UK, I, you and one or two others pay taxes that go towards
    medical treatment.

    We have a good NHS system that everyone takes for granted and people
    seem to forget that these things cost money. People begin to expect it
    for free any where.

    In the case of the TT and such events, I do not see it as beyond the
    realms of reasonableness to expect people to find insurance cover for
    their past time and hobbies.

    Heck, when I played rugby, the club would insure us through the RFU
    scheme and supply a physio to cover most injuries.
    YTC#1, Nov 2, 2009
  19. boxerboy

    Ben Guest

    Makes you wonder why the NHS doesn't actually cover Crown Dependencies
    and other odd UK-but-not-quite places.
    Ben, Nov 2, 2009
  20. boxerboy

    YTC#1 Guest

    Do the Crown Dependencies pay into the NHS ?
    Do the odd UK-but-not-quite places pay into the NHS ?

    One suspects not [1] , in which case why should theNHS cover them ?

    [1] Happy to be corrected
    YTC#1, Nov 2, 2009
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