£5 gallon

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Mark, Nov 18, 2007.

  1. Mark

    ogden Guest

    It is, a bit, due to my being unable to read column headings.

    RPI index for 11/1973 was 97.4 (01/1974 = 100)

    RPI index for 10/2007 was 824.1


    So that means £1 in November 1973 would equate to £8.46 now. Or your
    1973 fiver would be £42 quid now. Meaning the 12 gallons it takes to
    fill my tank would cost £507 in 2007 money.

    Even with the corrected maths, that's a **** of a lot of money. I think
    Grimly may be on the money saying that £100/tank would be a more likely
    trigger point. But it wouldn't change driving habits as such, it'd mean
    I'd be driving a 60mpg car, not a 30mpg one, and car manufacturers would
    have found a way to get similar performance from half the fuel. Most
    likely by making them lighter - even the smallest urban motorised
    fag-packet weighs a ton and a half these days.
    ogden, Nov 18, 2007
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    ogden Guest

    A 1979 pound was worth 37p in 1973 money (see other post). Ignore
    inflation at your peril.
    ogden, Nov 18, 2007
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    deadmail Guest

    It costs almost 100 quid to fill my car's tank. Fortunately I only do
    this once or twice a month. Still doesn't put me off driving.
    deadmail, Nov 18, 2007
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    ogden Guest

    Well, in my original post I referred to the distance that tank would get
    me, rather than the tankful itself. How far does that ton get you? 600
    ogden, Nov 18, 2007
  5. Mark

    deadmail Guest

    350-400 miles.
    deadmail, Nov 18, 2007
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    Pete M Guest

    I don't think my Range Rover is far off that now...

    Pete M - OMF#9
    "Save your breath for cooling your porridge!
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    Pete M, Nov 18, 2007
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    ogden Guest

    Jesus christ.

    I got rid of the pug because it was putting in 17mpg tanks. The Leon's
    not great at 29-ish mpg but the consumption is, at least, less than the
    mileage rate I get from work.
    ogden, Nov 18, 2007
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    Andy Bonwick Guest

    The first I knew of fuel costing over the £/litre mark was when the
    van I drive cost nearly £85 to fill and my immediate reaction was to
    laugh at how close I'd been to running out.

    A quick look at my expenses sheets tell me I shoved over £500 of
    diesel through that van last month. That's not too bad when you
    consider that I booked just under 40 hours as traveling time rather
    than time on site.
    Andy Bonwick, Nov 19, 2007
  9. Mark

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    Nice. My van does about 750 miles/£100 but the miles per pound is
    dropping like a stone atm.
    Andy Bonwick, Nov 19, 2007
  10. Of course; and that, more than anything else, made it possible for the
    gloomsters to ignore their earlier pronouncements. Mind you, it's always
    understood in these predictions that we'd be talking about 'real' values
    in current terms, ie "I'll give up driving when it reaches £1/gal in
    1973 prices". [1]

    I still don't recall anyone at that time talking about the possibility
    of £5/gal at that time, though it certainly became a very real prospect
    later on.

    [1] As you probably know already, the mid to late 70s were a dream
    period for picking up great old cars for peanuts - Personally, E-types
    for a couple of hundred, Interceptors for £400, because everybody
    thought the only way for fuel prices was up (in real terms). Nobody
    could foresee that fuel prices would stabilise and in real terms become
    amazingly cheap for a period of two decades.
    I also believed the days of cheap fuel were gone forever, and didn't buy
    the aforementioned Jag or Jensen, much to my later regret.
    GS850x2 XS650 SE6a

    Teach a man to fish and he and his pikey mates will have the
    river cleaned out in a day.
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Nov 19, 2007
  11. Two cars that I really thought I should invest in. Not both but one of
    them. Both were offered to me really cheap about that time. In hind
    sight I really wish I had bought one. But I expect my ex would have
    involved that in the "What's yours is mine and what's mine is my own."
    Debate that came later.

    Since I moved up to Nar-f*ck I did consider taking on a GT40 replica but
    made the ultimate, classic, error.

    I had a half finished project offered to me, local. Rolling chassis on
    skinny wheels with gear box, no engine, big ally wheels, no tyres, and
    all the glass, interior and dials in T chests. Now it was offered to me
    to take on, within a day or two of looking for one. It was about £5,000
    ono. I thought if they come that fast I'll be choosy and let it go. Now
    I find out the guy could have asked £15k and some and had his hand bit
    Mick Whittingham, Nov 19, 2007
  12. Once upon a time I was 5' 10" but I'm shrinking. Maybe 5' 9" now.

    I've been in a Holman Moody prepared Ford GT40 as a passenger around
    Brands. It was maintained/serviced by Piper Engineering. It was road
    legal! Awesome. The guy who took me round, told me to brace my feet on
    the bottom of the foot well and to pull the full harness down tight then
    fold my arms.

    "Why fold my arms?" I asked.
    "So bits of you don't start flying around when I start to push it."
    Or some thing like that.
    My dear old Dad called my TVR MkIIa and AIF car.

    He was 6 foot plus and the only way in to it was 'Arse In First'.
    Oh yes!
    Mick Whittingham, Nov 19, 2007
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    wessie Guest

    I had a chat with a tall GT40 owner at a classic day at Silverstone. He was
    about 6'4". His GT40 had a modified roof to accommodate his height.
    http://www.paintingsofcars.com/sdp242_Ford_GT40_gulf.jpg shows a Le Mans
    winning car similarly equipped.

    There were several cars, in those Gulf colours, there on the day.
    Unfortunately they only did a sedate parade lap. Some of the other, often
    older, cars were driven properly fortunately. Including a highly
    entertaining 1960s touring car race. A MkI Lotus Cortina won with a BMW
    2002 second.
    wessie, Nov 19, 2007
  14. Iirc, the Rocket 'box was the one to get, but I unrecall if that had
    straight-cut gears (I've a feeling it didn't, though it was strong). The
    noisiness of his box is undoubtedly due to the S/C gears in it, as it's
    the only way of ensuring un-stripped teeth in a box that size. Hewland
    and others would build a S/C box to order in those days, for an
    astronomical sum, of course.
    GS850x2 XS650 SE6a

    Teach a man to fish and he and his pikey mates will have the
    river cleaned out in a day.
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Nov 20, 2007
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    Pete M Guest

    Accompanied by the sound of a chisel on slate Grimly
    The Rocket 'box was the one in the Mk1 Escort Mexico. Reverse next to second
    gear, IIRC.

    Not to be confused with the 2000E 'box.

    Pete M - OMF#9
    "Save your breath for cooling your porridge!
    W&P Range Rover V8 Turbo
    Scorpio Ultima 24v
    Tatra 805
    Pete M, Nov 20, 2007
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