1.24 Grain Hollow Point?

Isn't that what the Israelis do to Palestinians?

 

The ones that have explosive belts on their bodies, yeah.

D.

 

To be fair, from what little I do know, "Spitzer Boat Tail Hollow
Point" is a reasonably accurate desciption of its shape: long pointed
round with (ISTR) conical end of the nose (up to the hollow bit,
obviously), then a constant-radius curve to parallel sides then curved
in again to taper the tail slightl.y. Sound right?

What sort of target would a _match_ round need a hollow point for?

 

Hollow points are less likely to ricochet around the range, and be less
dangerous if they do. Back in the 'olden days' when I used to play with
guns semi-jacketed hollow points would be the preferred rounds for 'magnum'
weapons. I've got a 240 grain semi-jacketed hollow point sitting here on my
desk - a souvenir of the time when I bought myself a S&W .44 mag Classic
Hunter with an 8.5 inch barrel as a change from 'sensible' shooting. (It
*was* fun to shoot, but hardly a suitable gun for target shooting).

It would have been a 124 grain, not 1.24.

 

The hollow point moves the CofG backward a tad making the round more
stable in flight, and hence more accurate.

Anyone considering going postal should consider HP rounds if you're not
going to do it up front and personal, naked with a Samurai sword.

 

I've never heard that one, but it may be true. I always thought that
shifting the CofG back caused the bullet to 'tumble' on impact therefore
increasing the damage and reducing the chance of the bullet coming out
through the other ear.

But I admit I'm no ballistics expert (I used to shoot because I like to
hear the bang...)

 

You have sympathy for who?
I do feel some for the Plod. They are asked to do a rather impossible job,
or not one I would take on at least.

 

Technical point.
The Israelis are the immigrants. Well recently anyway.

 

What!! You not at all attracted by the prospect of going around
shooting foreigners and rightly blaming the management for giving you
false information about exactly who it is you should shoot and not
having to travel the ends of the earth to do it? Sounds like a
wonderful job to me and the uniform is really cool too. Especially
those neat little earpiece telephone/radio things they have. Roger
Roger. Not sure I would want promotion though, all that grossly unfair
blame for missing performance targets can't be a good thing to your
average highly proud of his skills trigger happy sharp shooter. Unless
you are a sociopath of course in which case you would be the ideal
candidate. Maybe we should review our recruitment policies and take on
a few serious nutters and train them up to kill in an approved manner
for the good of Society instead of the hordes of well vetted well
adjusted well meaning incompetents we currently employ. The knowledge
that you could be confronting a fully armed and trained volunteer
killing machine with no conscience acting with the support of the whole
country and a management chain who looked down rather than up when doing
the job and up rather than down when it all goes wrong might make the
evil Goldstein and his cohorts think twice before attacking us again
that might.

 

http://www.eretzyisroel.org/~samuel/presence.html

D.

 

A quick google will be you're friend on this one. I had a look after
the Menezes fiasco.

There is a big difference between tumbling, and mushrooming, obviously,
but handgun rounds aren't generally unstable and the hollow point helps.
Rifle rounds I'd be the first person to say "isn't this taking the piss".

 

You're confusing the bullet in flight with it's impact on soft tissue.
Again, I reiterate the point, hollow point bullets are not designed to
fragment.

 

snip>

Up front and personal means 6' and a shotgun. Any closer than that and
the victim might be able to get hold of you.

 

Correct. Also common although more expensive is the ballistic tip HP. This
design uses a plastic 'nosecone' inserted into the HP to keep the optimum
ballistic trajectory/performance at long ranges.

Nah. 12-bore. Solid slug.

JB

 

I don't know why I'm replying to this, but heh, I'm pissed and the
puerile fuckwit doesn't know his arse from his cock, so here goes for
first serve;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollow_point_bullet#Accuracy

Jeez, you'd think Bear would look before he posted, given I'm the master
of such fuckwittedness..

 

Lol. I was considering the scenario that me covered in blood waving my
todger and a sword around would put off even the most upright citizen of
the average metropolis.

I'm now off to bed to sleep off the beer and await my hangover before
going to work. You all sleep well now.

 

I found an interesting Wiki article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollow_point_bullet, which supports both the
increased accuracy and the reduced ricochet arguments, but doesn't mention
any 'tumbling'. Maybe I was thinking of something else.

 

**** it I've ginged.

 

You do?
Think of the deterrent effect.

 

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Hog

Well, quite so. But Higgins is (IIRC) a porridgewog living in God's Own
Country, so is currently feeling exposed.

Oh... wait...

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