1983 honda CB1000C

Discussion in 'Motorbike Technical Discussion' started by firestud22, Jan 5, 2008.

  1. firestud22

    firestud22 Guest

    I am looking for a 1983 honda CB1000C head gasekt does anybody know
    where i can get one of these. please let me know thanks.
     
    firestud22, Jan 5, 2008
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  2. Ooooh, tricky, tricky.....

    I don't want to show you up as a complete dimbulb, but have you tried a
    Honda dealer?
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jan 5, 2008
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  3. firestud22

    oldgeezer Guest

    <snip>

    There always will be a polite MO who googles up the answer for them.
    That's why.

    Rob.
     
    oldgeezer, Jan 5, 2008
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  4. Heh. As opposed to a rude old git who'll tell them to **** off and try
    the obvious ;-)
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jan 5, 2008
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  5. Utter and complete nonsense.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jan 6, 2008
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  6. "I saw it on the internet so it has to be true"
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jan 6, 2008
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  7. That's not a 10 year-old bike, it's a 23 year-old bike, so you're not
    being consistent, are you?
    I'd expect that. I wouldn't expect many dealers to devote shelf space to
    gaskets for relatively unpopular bikes that are nearly a quarter-century
    old.

    An OEM head gasket for a 1982 CB1000 is available, price
    US$14.47+carriage, from BikeBandit. Are we feeling foolish yet?

    Incidentally, the firm can also offer an OEM head gasket for a V65 Magna
    can be had for US$29.98, OEM, carriage extra. Plus loads of other bits

    What you've highlighted is the inadequacy of some (many?) Honda dealers,
    *not* Honda's spares back-up.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jan 6, 2008
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  8. See other posting. I just have.

    This may come as a surprise to you, but I restore old Jap bikes, both
    for fun and as part of what I loosely call "work".

    Honda's parts supply is absolutely extraordinary. Yes, it's getting
    harder to source components for pre-1980s bikes, but as I said in my
    other post, you can't expect Honda to keep making all parts for all
    their bikes ad infinitum.

    Your assertion that Honda doesn't support bikes more than a decade old
    is utter tripe.

    That would mean that, for example, a CBR600, 1997 vintage, now no longer
    has parts made for it....
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jan 6, 2008
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  9. firestud22

    Bob Scott Guest

    Might be the case in the US but it certainly wasn't in the UK last year.

    Certainly spares for late '80s & early '90s CBRs aren't a problem. Mind
    you, spares for my mid '80s, limited edition, never a UK model 750
    aren't as easy to get a hold of. Got to go to Dave Silver for them.
     
    Bob Scott, Jan 6, 2008
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  10. Well, on the example he gave me, it isn't a problem as regards Honda.
    Just crap dealers.

    We have them here, too, of course. I can understand dealers not keeping
    parts for elderly bikes on the shelf, but I do get irritated when they
    say they can't be obtained, because I know full well that they can.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jan 6, 2008
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  11. firestud22

    Ken Abrams Guest

    You are jumping to unsupported conclusions again (still).

    A single incident does not a pattern make and a single incident does not
    mean whatever you mistakenly believe it to mean.

    The simple fact that their initial response was "We will try to order it."
    directly refutes your claim that they offer no support.

    If you actually dig long enough, instead of just pulling wild guesses out of
    your ass, I think you will find that they don't GUARANTEE support for things
    over XX years old (more like 20 I think) but will always try......feeble
    though the attempt may be.

    Over the years I have been amazed at some of the 20 year old "real" Honda
    parts they have been able to come up with. There have also been cases where
    they can't get things that old from Honda and won't take their time to root
    them out somewhere else. That should be no surprise to anybody though.
     
    Ken Abrams, Jan 6, 2008
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  12. It's a genuine Honda part, and it's available. So a Honda dealer can
    obtain it.
    That's because I'm not the one looking an ass.
    They as sure as hell support bikes older than 10 years, which is what
    you *did* say.
    Yes, you *will*,if you use a good dealer. Once again, you are confusing
    an idle dealer's policy with that of Honda itself. This crucial
    difference has already been pointed out to you and you are choosing to
    ignore it.
    I acknowledged that some parts are unavailable. I pointed out that an
    '85 Magna is nearly a quarter of a century old, and your assertion was
    that bikes over 10 years old, not 23 years old, were not supported. I
    also pointed out that this was not a particularly popular model anyway.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jan 6, 2008
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  13. Oh yes, agreed. *But the cut-off period is longer than 10 years*.

    And Honda *does* still keep making parts for bikes far, far older, if
    there is sufficient demand (and thus profit).
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jan 6, 2008
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  14. So what's the problem with that?
    You were misinformed. Some parts, almost certainly. Again, it was not a
    super-popular model

    Not for all parts.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jan 6, 2008
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  15. You said Honda don't make parts for bikes *more than 10 years old*, and
    this is nonsense.
    That's a dealer failing, not a Honda Motor Co failing.
    If Honda ceases making parts, yes, right, but this is the same of *all*
    vehicles. There comes a point when you stop making bits for them. When
    there are so few on the road that it's just not worthwhile.
    You seem to deliberately be picking one of Honda's least successful
    model lines - the early V4s.

    Look, I can order brand new OE Honda stuff for my 1974 SL125, if I want
    to. OK, not stuff like panels, tanks and suchlike, but certainly service
    items and even quite a few engine parts.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jan 6, 2008
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  16. firestud22

    Ken Abrams Guest

    No you didn't. You said "Honda doesn't support bikes over 10 years old."
    That statement is easily disproven but egotistical ass that you are, you
    refuse to give up.

    You can back-pedal and side-step and claim not to have said what you did but
    the fact remains that your initial spew was (and is) bullshit.
     
    Ken Abrams, Jan 6, 2008
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  17. See the Honda 400 Four in my sig? You can still get brand new OE
    exhausts for it (largely due to pressure from David Silver Esq who sells
    hundreds every year). The price has recently gone up significantly, from
    £250-odd to £425 or so (double it for US dollars), and these are *not*
    NOS parts. They're still being made.

    OK, so they're pricey, but you can buy one from D.Silver Esq or from a
    Honda UK dealer.

    That's cast-iron proof. What proof have you got for your assertion that
    they don't make any parts for bikes older than 10 years?

    (I can still get brand new camchains and points sets for my 1974 SL125.
    I don't know whether these are still being manufactured, though)
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jan 6, 2008
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  18. See my other posting about the SL125. That's an engine that Honda
    stopped making in, erm, well, its last incarnation was in the mid-1980s.

    So I seriously doubt that parts like camchain, piston, etc fit other
    bikes.

    Anyway, you're *still* changing your markers. Originally it was "no
    support for bikes over 10 years old". Now it's "not manufacturing unique
    parts for bikes over 10 years old".

    Don't keep moving the goalposts.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jan 6, 2008
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  19. firestud22

    Bruce Farley Guest

    By choosing to completely ignore my request for a source for you
    statement that Honda does not support bikes older than 10 years you show
    that this is only your impression, NOT a policy of Honda. As so well
    pointed out to you, many parts are available. I do a lot of work on Gold
    Wings and can assure you that I still am able to get what I need from
    AHM for bikes older than 10 years. Of course it is true that SOME parts
    are no longer available. If Honda was to continue to stock all parts for
    everything that they sold for the last 10, 15, 20 or 25 years do you
    have any idea what the cost to you would be? You would be starting a new
    thread about how Honda was ripping of the public with their high prices.
    As was pointed out before, the whole V-4 line of the mid 80's was not
    one of the best efforts of Honda. I have worked on them from the time
    they came out and there were times when a bike left the shop that we
    crossed our fingers and hopped that it would hold together, and this was
    using genuine Honda parts. It is not a big surprise that the parts
    supply for these is running low.
    I would once again ask for a source for your statement that bikes older
    than 10 years are not supported. You silence will speak volumes.

    Bruce
     
    Bruce Farley, Jan 6, 2008
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  20. Ah, so because *you* dont buy them, that means Honda doesn't make them.

    Ri-ight.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jan 6, 2008
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