1983 honda CB1000C

Discussion in 'Motorbike Technical Discussion' started by firestud22, Jan 5, 2008.

  1. 'S'ok. He ain't gonna provide one.
    The Older Gentleman, Jan 6, 2008
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  2. Honda dealers don't produce things.
    I said: some parts aren't in production.

    So, a quick review.

    Jack says:

    "Honda has a policy of not supporting any bike older than 10 years"

    TOG says: "Utter and complete nonsense" and others say similar.

    Jack says a head gasket for a CB1000 is unavailable from Honda.

    TOG says that a CB1000 is a quarter-century old, not 10 years, but
    nevertheless points him at a supplier and quotes a price.

    Jack says: "That's not a Honda dealer, is it?"

    TOG says: "It's a genuine Honda part, and it's available. So a Honda
    dealer can obtain it." He acknowledges that some parts for older bikes
    are indeed not obtainable and points out why.

    Jack starts a frantic back-pedal and claims: "I never said you can't get
    the old parts. I said Honda doesn't make them any more."

    TOG (and Ken) remind him that this is not at all what he said. TOG says
    that parts for older bikes are being made.

    Jack demands proof!

    TOG points to the exhaust of his 30 year-old Honda 400 Four and says
    (correctly) that it's still being made. Also cites parts for his 1974

    Jack chooses to ignore the 400 exhaust issue and says of the 125: "We
    don't have those pushbikes over here", thus now making the imaginary
    supply problem a localised US issue.

    TOG reminds Jack that he's ,oving the goalposts with every posting.

    Jack asks TOG to prove that a gasket for a CB1000 is still currently in

    And TOG, at this stage in a laughable series of nonsense postings by
    Jack says:

    You lose.
    The Older Gentleman, Jan 7, 2008
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  3. But of course. Well, having made him look a complete fool in front of a
    grandstand audience, I've finished playing with him.
    The Older Gentleman, Jan 7, 2008
  4. no

    Here, have a free word.

    And it was still sound advice as a first port of call. And I
    subsequently located source, item and price.

    Thank you for playing, all the same. It's been fun.
    [email protected], Jan 7, 2008
  5. They do? Where do you learn that little nugget of info?

    Not that I disbelieve you: I'm just impressed.
    The Older Gentleman, Jan 7, 2008
  6. firestud22

    Bruce Farley Guest

    You do have a way with words. When asked for a source you can give none.
    And now you make remarks about body parts. Too bad. I could have
    probably been of some help to you but you now go in the kill file.
    Bruce Farley, Jan 8, 2008

  7. He's just behaving like a little kid.

    I can't actually figure out why he lied in this thread. I mean, anyone
    who says: "I said (this)...." when that patently isn't true must (a)
    have a deep-seated desire to tell lies and sod the consequences and
    (b) believe that his previous postings sort of disappear after people
    read them, so that the obvious contradiction can't be pointed out.

    Very strange. He's not alone in that, of course.
    [email protected], Jan 8, 2008
  8. firestud22

    sturd Guest

    The Older Gentleman says:
    From experience, the internet providers might have the part number
    on the site, will let you order it, and then a couple hours/days
    later will tell you via email or phonecall "sorry, it's no longer
    available". I've recently had this happen for both Honda
    ('74 CR125M) and Suzuki (GS750EC) parts, from two
    different suppliers. Service Honda in the first case, Bike
    Bandit in the second.

    Go fast. Take chances.
    Mike S.
    sturd, Jan 9, 2008
  9. Ye-es, but the point of this sub-thread was that Jack started by
    saying there was no support for 10+ year-old Hondas.

    However, he choose to illustrate his point by referring to a bike that
    was actually 25 years old, and then (to general amusement) tied
    himself in knots.

    The CR125 you mention is 34 years old, and the 750 about 30 years old,
    and we have already agreed that some parts for older bikes are hard or
    impossible to find. I'd expect this for bikes 30+ years old.

    And yes, some suppliers do piss you around. However, as has been
    patiently explained, this is a defect of the suppliers concerned and
    has nothing to do with the actual manufacturers' spare parts support
    [email protected], Jan 9, 2008
  10. firestud22

    Mark Olson Guest

    I was surprised to see Service Honda mentioned in this context.
    My experience with them has been very positive, and I have never had
    them come back saying they couldn't get any parts for my '81 CM400T,
    or my '81 CB900C, or my '86 GL1200A.

    Since it has been mentioned that S.H. may not be able to get all the
    parts listed in their online catalog, if I want to order any parts for
    older bikes from them, I will phone first and have them check with the
    warehouse for availability.

    I have also ordered numerous parts for the three aforementioned bikes
    from a local Honda dealer, including a complete top end gasket set for
    the CM400T and I never had them tell me they couldn't get a part I
    Mark Olson, Jan 9, 2008
  11. Actually, the only person entertained by your argumentiveness is YOU.

    Interminable Usenet debates have been your only source of
    entertainment since you
    became impotent.
    ÃÄÈËÎÐÓÖØÙ, Jan 9, 2008
  12. Heh. I bet Jack's *really proud* to have you fighting his corner.
    [email protected], Jan 9, 2008
  13. rec.motorcycles isn't about experienced riders and mechanics debating
    with each other,
    it's about helping other motorcyclists with their mechanical and
    electrical problems.

    If you want to play flame war with other trolls, stay in UKRM.
    ÃÄÈËÎÐÓÖØÙ, Jan 9, 2008
  14. Er, this isn't rec motorcycles, though, is it?
    Ah. Now, a while back, you said it was for newbies to be educated about

    I told you to look at the charter then. I'll tell you the same here.
    I play with you here, don't I?

    You lose.
    The Older Gentleman, Jan 9, 2008
  15. Anybody who reads your crap or debates with you has wasted that part
    if his life.

    If you have information that might *reasonably* help the OP, then
    share it.

    Otherwise, control your urge to play NIGYYSOB with everybody.
    ÃÄÈËÎÐÓÖØÙ, Jan 9, 2008
  16. Well, let's see. I have already given him the details of a supplier who
    listed the part he wanted, and quoted the price.

    Like I said:

    You lose! Loser.
    The Older Gentleman, Jan 9, 2008
  17. firestud22

    sturd Guest

    Mark Olson is suprised:
    My experience with them has been very positive too. They called first
    thing when they got to the office the morning after I ordered a CR
    that was no longer available. Not their fault that the software let's
    order phantom parts. At least they let me know right away.

    Mike S.
    sturd, Jan 10, 2008
  18. firestud22

    IdaSpode Guest


    A couple of months ago I was searching for some out of production
    Gaerne boots. I was able to order them from two different places that
    in fact did not have them in stock. I was also notified promptly,

    It is someone's responsibility to keep the online store's inventory
    current, it's not necessarily a function of the software used. When I
    told one of the places they still showed the boots in stock, they
    changed the page within a day.
    IdaSpode, Jan 10, 2008
  19. firestud22

    sturd Guest

    IdaSpode notes:
    Yeabut that's different as no motorcycle shop stocks hard parts
    for 20-30 year old bikes, except by accident.

    The following is slightly conjecture as I've not had enough
    access to the insides of one of these systems but:

    My local dealer, an old friend, has let me play with his system
    minimally a couple times. You can also access it via internet.


    It supposedly has a direct connection to Yamaha and Suzuki
    warehouse stock, as Service Honda most probably does.
    The trouble is that connection is less than stellar,
    it will let you order stuff that isn't available. If you're standing
    at the
    counter, it'll come back and tell you right then. If you're doing it
    through whatever firewall allows access via internet, it never tells
    you anything is not available unless the part number database
    says 'no longer available'. I've had the same experience with
    my buddy's system as I have with Service Honda's. Order it
    online from him for pickup in a couple days and get a call or
    email that the parts are no longer available.

    So I think in this case, it is a software vendor failing.
    I think.

    Go fast. Take chances.
    Mike S.
    sturd, Jan 10, 2008
  20. firestud22

    IdaSpode Guest

    In this case I agree, it's not a simple "shopping cart" that you're
    dealing with, as in my examples.
    IdaSpode, Jan 10, 2008
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