[QUOTE="corks"] actually make it three coz i cant count who in your opinion are the worlds 2 best m/c riders (rotty you may not include yourself) amd why are they iyho to make it more fun , it has to be broken down into current ie still racing , retired - still alive and historic - most likely dead.[/QUOTE] Jesus Chris, #46 by M I L E S and he aint finished yet,be interesting to see what damage(if any) this season will do to his UNMATCHED 50% win rate.... Unlike the guy he replaced and in general who only raced and won against spastics like,Creville & Okada, Rossi has had to do it much harder and my God still only 24 YO [QUOTE] ie i might answer agostini and sheen ....[/QUOTE] As for past i cannot comment other than saying Ago will prob. have the most championships won by a singlr rider record forever and ever,depends on Rossi really and if he gets sick of going around in circles ?