2 stroke engine advice please

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Stevie, Apr 25, 2007.

  1. Stevie

    Stevie Guest

    Hi,

    Some thieving scum nicked my old faithful KMX125. It got recovered
    20mins
    later having had a bit of a crash in a park (I hope they broke their
    neck).
    Anyway, it now wont start and I can't work out why.

    The electrics seem intact and there is a healthy spark. There is
    definitely
    fuel in it. When I kick it over it doesn't fire, but then occasionally
    will
    backfire (especially when holding the throttle open.)

    Any ideas?

    I've no idea how they 'hot wired' it. They had disconnected the
    ignition
    barrel at the first connector, but there was no improvised
    connections
    there. And becasue the spark seems fine, I'm assuming it's not
    electrical.

    Would it lying on it's side for a while have done anything relevent?
    Has it
    been left on it's side reving it's nuts off after the crash? When I
    put my
    thumb over the spark plug hole and kick it over, the compression
    doesn't
    seem consistant in a reassuring way, but I've no idea what normal is.

    Help!

    Cheers
    Steve
     
    Stevie, Apr 25, 2007
    #1
    1. Advertisements

  2. A couple of possibilities...

    Crankcase might be a bit too wet with neat petrol if the carb allowed it
    to happen in that position. Check if the plug's wet when you kick it
    over.

    If it was, as you suspect, left revving its nuts off on its side, the
    crankcase seals could be shagged.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Apr 26, 2007
    #2
    1. Advertisements

  3. Stevie

    Molly Guest

    We have this problem when students drop the training bikes. It's usually the
    plug.
     
    Molly, Apr 26, 2007
    #3
  4. Stevie

    Pip Guest

    We used to have this problem every time the clumsy **** riders dropped
    the race bike.

    It was always the carbs that just needed stripping, blowing through
    and a bit of very hurried TLC.
     
    Pip, Apr 26, 2007
    #4
  5. Stevie

    CT Guest

    Good job that only happened rarely, eh?

    What?

    Oh...
     
    CT, Apr 26, 2007
    #5
  6. Move to a less pikey area. HTH.
     
    Sean Hamerton, Apr 26, 2007
    #6
  7. Stevie

    Stevie Guest

    Hmm... I dont remember the plug being wet (I was trying to start it 5
    days after it had been stood upright again)
    How do I investigate this possibility? I'm not familiar with crankcase
    seals. Are these the seals on the main crank bearings?

    Somebody else has suggested that the carb jets may be full of crap, so
    I should remove and clean out the carb. Does this sound reasonable use
    of a few hours?

    Ta so far!
    Steve
     
    Stevie, Apr 26, 2007
    #7
  8. Stevie

    Keith G Guest


    Yes, certainly if there is nothing bent on it that's likely to be
    interfering with the electrics, the carb is where to look but forget
    kicking it over - tow it up and down with another bike (or car) to fart
    it through and *make it* pick up!

    Oh and clean the plug anyway - it's 2 stroke, ain't it?
     
    Keith G, Apr 26, 2007
    #8
  9. Stevie

    Stevie Guest

    We have this problem when students drop the training bikes. It's usually the
    Would this still apply even after being stood for 5 days? (err
    recalculation... 3 days)

    It hasn't had a new plug for ?8 years and 5000 hard miles so I may
    splash out and treat it to a new one. (I'm just crazy like that...)

    Is there a way to 'dry the cylinder'?

    Ta
    Steve
     
    Stevie, Apr 26, 2007
    #9
  10. Stevie

    Stevie Guest

    It was always the carbs that just needed stripping, blowing through
    Ah, cool. That answers my earlier question. Sorry, I'm temporarily
    using Google as my newsreader and it's supplying me with replies in a
    seemingly random and secretive way!

    Steve
     
    Stevie, Apr 26, 2007
    #10
  11. It is a stroker, the first and usually the last point of call for any
    fault finding procedure is *always* the plug.

    Turning the engine over once or twice without the plug in is enough and
    you have done this all ready.
     
    steve auvache, Apr 26, 2007
    #11
  12. Stevie

    Stevie Guest

    Move to a less pikey area. HTH.Or more accurately, don't lend your spare bike to a mate who lives in
    a pikey area.

    It's lucky for us though that pikeys aren't allowed to come to our
    fabulously posh areas... The gatekeeper sends them away.
     
    Stevie, Apr 26, 2007
    #12
  13. Stevie

    Roger Hunt Guest

    Stevie wrote
    It's gatekeepers in white coats with ETC leads dangling from pockets,
    round here. (dribble)
     
    Roger Hunt, Apr 26, 2007
    #13
  14. And so on?
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Apr 26, 2007
    #14
  15. Stevie

    Roger Hunt Guest

    Grimly Curmudgeon wrote
    Um yes er indeedy.
     
    Roger Hunt, Apr 26, 2007
    #15
    1. Advertisements

Ask a Question

Want to reply to this thread or ask your own question?

You'll need to choose a username for the site, which only take a couple of moments (here). After that, you can post your question and our members will help you out.