400-4 versus GS500

Discussion in 'Classic Motorcycles' started by crn, Jul 30, 2009.

  1. crn

    crn Guest

    The 400-4 came back today with a nice shiney MOT, time to take it out
    for a good thrashing and compare it back to back with the GS500.

    I was a tad surprised, despite having 10 less horses the 400-4 went
    rather well, power delivery is rather different with the gears
    closer together so it needs to have its tits revved off but in
    general the performance was very acceptable up to around 85 mph
    when it starts to run out of puff. The GS500 has more grunt so
    it feels more relaxed and pulls a tad better but since I seldom
    exceed 80mph the extra top end speed of 110+ is not really needed.

    The GS500 has nice handling but the 400-4 was a revalation - no
    wonder so many people rate it as one of the best handling bikes
    ever, agilty+++.

    My only major problem with the 400-4 is the brakes which are best
    described as barely adequate. It is possible to get the front tyre
    squirming on a dry road given enough effort on the lever but
    both brakes are nowhere near as sharp as the (admittedly more
    modern) Suzuki.

    Overall impression - bloody good for a 70s SOB but better brakes
    would inspire more confidence.
     
    crn, Jul 30, 2009
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  2. They don't. It was the best-handling Honda of the era, granted, and it's
    surprisingly good even today, but one of the best ever? No way.

    Brakes - do the mods I suggested.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jul 30, 2009
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  3. crn

    Timo Geusch Guest

    Indeed. I would hazard a guess that a contemporary Morini is probably
    slightly better handling, unless some plonker fitted a 100/90 to the
    front wheel.
     
    Timo Geusch, Jul 30, 2009
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  4. crn

    YTC#1 Guest

    wrote:

    In whos dreams ?
     
    YTC#1, Jul 30, 2009
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  5. crn

    ian field Guest

    400-4 brakes are adequate if maintained properly.

    Fit new seals top and bottom and use silicone grease for lubrication,
    especially the calliper seals.

    The calliper pivot must be well greased and free to move.

    You could also take another look at the advice given by a couple of others
    in an earlier thread about upgrading the hoses.

    For the rear brake cam spindle I find Finish Line PTFE grease (sold in
    bicycle shops) works well, but needs re-greasing fairly frequently.
     
    ian field, Jul 30, 2009
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