6 days with a R1

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Eskimobob, Aug 11, 2005.

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    Eskimobob Guest

    A tale of woe,

    Picked up my new bike Last Friday, black R1 '05. Got knocked off
    it this morning. Driver turned left from middle lane and didn't see
    me. Luckily I was only going about 30-40 Km/h and landed on the
    pavement.

    Bike pretty damaged, but my injuries are limited to few scrapes,
    my pride and b@lls...

    Rob
     
    Eskimobob, Aug 11, 2005
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    Loz Guest

    Good luck and bad luck rolled into one eh? Those 05 R1s are absolutely
    beautiful.

    You'll be pissed off if they decide it's repairable, it'll never be a
    new bike. Good luck dealing with all that shit.

    And next time, stop buggering around and get a Honda.
     
    Loz, Aug 11, 2005
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    Knobdoodle Guest

    Knobdoodle, Aug 11, 2005
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    Uncle Bully Guest

    Since I've never been knocked off by a car, but have come close millions of
    times with it always being their fault, can I ask how the driver handled the
    situation? We're they profusely sorry?
    I helped a fellow rider up off the road one time after a car did a similar
    thing except there was no collision. The rider did an emergency swerve and
    ended up arse over breakfast on the footpath, while the car ignorantly
    carried on their journey.
    I'm wondering what excuses these people can possibly have for such lame
    driving?
     
    Uncle Bully, Aug 11, 2005
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    Eskimo Bob Guest

    She was very sorry and apologetic, even dropped me off at work after
    Ghost riders (great service guys!) picked up my bike. Let's see how nice
    she is after her insurance informs her of the 21K claim...
     
    Eskimo Bob, Aug 11, 2005
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    Eskimo Bob Guest

    Really hope they'll judge it a write off and give me a new one. The
    swingarm is dented in quite badly and the crash knobs took a bashing
    as well which might have warped the frame.

    A Honda? Not after having ridden a R1, mate. The ZX-10 is a better
    ride than the CBR, IMNSHO.
     
    Eskimo Bob, Aug 11, 2005
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    GB Guest

    EvilURL is crueler, apparently:

    "The alias you tried to use is not in our database. If you
    would like to create an EvilURL, please visit our main page."

    GB
     
    GB, Aug 11, 2005
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    GB Guest

    "Sorry mate, I didn't see you."

    GB
     
    GB, Aug 11, 2005
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  9. They're asleep half the time, and blissfully unaware the other half :-/

    <rant>

    Just coming home tonight, approaching the Westbound paystations on the
    M4, a dropkick in a Mini cut across three lanes to get on top of me. A flick
    o' the high beam got him to turn around just as he was coming into my lane,
    whereupon I saw he was obviously too busy holding onto his mobile 'phone to
    bother looking where he was going.

    Then up Mamre Road, getting close to home, another dropkick decides to
    try gunning out of a petrol station before the onset of traffic from the
    hitherto red lights. A blast o' the horn got him to stop (midway into the
    road, mind you), but what I found strange was the look of "what're you
    honking for?" on his face.

    Two simple solutions come to mind - either make driver licensing as
    stringent here as it is in Europe, or make it compulsory for everyone
    applying for a driver's license, to first be a rider for at least six
    months. Either method'll weed out the dozers who shouldn't be on the roads.

    </rant>

    - Bob.
     
    Bob Milutinovic, Aug 11, 2005
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    Knobdoodle Guest

    I got "you came from nowhere" (when I was just driving along a suburban
    street at about 40kph)
     
    Knobdoodle, Aug 11, 2005
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    Knobdoodle Guest

    Knobdoodle, Aug 11, 2005
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    Nev.. Guest

    Why didn't you take some evasive action when you saw what that driver was
    about to do?

    Nev..
    '03 ZX12R
     
    Nev.., Aug 11, 2005
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    Nev.. Guest

    Why would her insurance inform her of the extent of your claim? That's their
    problem, not hers.

    Nev..
    '03 ZX12R
     
    Nev.., Aug 11, 2005
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    Nev.. Guest

    Last week on a Melbourne freeway I saw a Corolla try to occupy the same space
    as a Landcruiser he didn't see.

    Nev..
    '03 ZX12R
     
    Nev.., Aug 11, 2005
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    CrazyCam Guest

    Bob Milutinovic wrote:

    Both would be better.

    regards,
    CrazyCam
     
    CrazyCam, Aug 11, 2005
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    jlittler Guest

    OK, it being day 600 and something of Harsh Week and all, the top
    question has to be "What could you have done differently that would
    have enabled you to avoid the accident" ?

    While she was obviously legally in the wrong, that doesn't meant it
    wasn't avoidable...

    - Were you riding in her blind spot ? How far behind her were you ?
    - Did you see any indication she was thinking about coming across (that
    slight twitch of a head that passes for a lane check in Sydney) ? Were
    you looking in the right place to have seen it at the time ?
    - Where were you in relation to her field of vision in the mirrors - if
    she did the Sydney traditional "have a quick glance in the mirror
    before changing lane and indicating afterwards" would she have seen you
    ?

    What else could you have done or watched for ?

    Having had exactly the same thing happen to me on the TRX in '01
    (except I dodged and rear ended another car in the next lane which made
    me totally at fault legally - it's ironic but you're often better off
    financially NOT avoiding the accident :-( ) I can say that there were
    too things I shouldn't have done in that instance - I shouldn't have
    been in the left hand lane moving faster than the traffic in the centre
    lane - in hindsight it was obvious someone would slam across in front
    of me to "improve their position". The learning for me was to be ultra
    careful where there's a speed differential between lanes, and to avoid
    the left hand lane when the road is congested.

    JL
     
    jlittler, Aug 12, 2005
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    Eskimobob Guest

    I was slightly behind her on the left. The first and only warning I got
    for her turning
    left, was the nose of the car veering left into my lane. I grabbed a
    hand full of brake
    (and no I didn't lock my wheels), hit the car and bounced onto the
    pavement.
    She didn't check her mirrors, she told me last time she checked I was
    still behind
    her. I changed into the left lane at least 30-40 meters before the
    accident.

    I guess I could have spent time perfecting my "turbo-boost jump over
    car trick"
    last weekend. That's about the only thing which would have prevented
    this. If
    a driver doesn't check or indicate before turning left from the middle
    lane, there's
    not much you as a rider can do IMHO.

    In future I will be even more careful and paranoid about drivers and
    their erratic
    behaviour. I am not a perfect rider and am not saying I don't make
    mistakes or
    misjudge situations, but I am very careful on the road after over 2
    years of
    commuting through Sydney traffic.

    Rob
     
    Eskimobob, Aug 12, 2005
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    Theo Bekkers Guest

    You've morphed into Zebee!

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Aug 12, 2005
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    Nev.. Guest

    not much you as a rider can do IMHO.

    Either you're only rider who's ever not been seen by a car driver who changed
    lane suddenly (no such thing as without warning... as long as they're in
    control of their car, there'll always be a warning) or are you just the last
    to learn that you don't ride in blind spots. I thought they taught that stuff
    in the Learner course.
    The evidence would suggest otherwise.

    Nev..
    '03 ZX12R
     
    Nev.., Aug 12, 2005
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  20. Three simple solutions. Make driver licensing as stringent here as it is
    in Europe, make it compulsory for everyon applying for a driver's
    license to first be a rider for at least six months, and leagalise
    motorcycle mounted surface to surface missiles...

    big (amongst the many simple solutions...)
     
    Iain Chalmers, Aug 12, 2005
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