A Day in court...

Just remember though, a manufacture can refuse certain 'requests' as being
of a 'propriety nature'.

This would depend on many factors in the application.

Most driver's wouldn't bother...

Easier to change the limit's under which we reside, and to eventually force
Metrology in application.

 

Methinks we speak of different things. This device is radar not lidar.
It's permanently mounted in the car, and there appears to be little
there by way of aiming equipment, other than the car itself. IOW,
everything out there in the beam is....
Seems to me to be designed for relatively remote areas where there is
less chance of more than one vehicle being illuminated.
IMHO, in those areas Police should be working on drivers being FOP
rather than playing the Every K game.

On that matter, a friend was radar breached recently, and he had a
truck overtaking him, and another gaining on him and about to do the
same when he was clocked. He was in a BA Ford, IIRC. In point of fact,
he was the slowest vehicle there! But he had all the brakes,
apparently

This new device would tend to make that sort of thing even more
frequent.

 

Did you see the chart of American voters from the blue and red states
(they are opposite to our colour scheme -- conservative is red, and
lefty is blue) arranged in order of intelligence? The chart had blue
all up one end and red the other. The blue (leftys) being at the more
imtelligent end.

 

OK - I've forgotten most of the electrial theory that I learnt at uni, but
that doesn't sound the same as using a resistive bridge to increase the
output voltage to 24 V and somehow increase the power at the same time.

I've had the education, but like I said I forgot most of it

 

The people walking all over the place ought to bear some responsibility for
their actions too, though.

 

Depends on the type of motor, doesn't it? Some electric motors have about
the same torque at all speeds.

 

Can you do that while the engine's running? The point was that with an
electric motor, you can get more power without changing the motor.

 

The voltage regulator controls the field winding current to maintain the
output voltage at 12V.

If, as I described, you arrange the voltage regulator to maintain 24V
instead, the field winding current will be higher and at any condition
where the regulater was not previously feeding the field winding the
full 12V available, the output power is higher.

 

The resistive bridge merely presents the voltage regulator sense
terminal with half the true output voltage, causing it to continue to
excite the field winding until the output voltage reaches 28V.

 

Written like a true Australian Standard, and in the same philosophy, the
definitions are as broad as a big man's backside.

I'm not sure how this stands legally, however, Dick Smith Electronics (among
others) is flogging off those toy motorised bikes, (Y0655) claim it does no
more than 10Km/h (assuming 80Kg rider weight), which require a permit in SA and
NT only.
This would imply that a permit is not required in NSW, where the ARR apply
(at least I'm sure they apply here).

This seems that there is no "200W" rule, but a speed rule instead.

So, those motorised scooters would come under "a motorised wheelchair that
can travel over 10Km/h over level ground".

A "wheeled recreational device or wheeled toy" implies a non-powered
"push-along", so don't apply here.

 

Try reading the whole thread!

Try this one, or doesn't it suite your argument?
"Oh I reckon I was doing about 60 and will cop that".

Is that not an admission of guilt?

He has not claimed to be innocent. He
has admitted to exceeding the speed limit.

Jaded view of justice? I think you're a bit confused. Try
reading the whold thread.

You idiot, stuffing up with that, hardly makes me illiterate.
The last time i looked, I could read and write. The big
hoo haa over my stuff up with "intesive" as opposed to
"intents and" is amusing. I see people in this and other
forums who misquote, misread, misspell, and misinterpret,
all the time and it is largely ignored. Why? Because we,
the readers, know what they are on about and dont make
a big deal out of it. This forum is for intelligent discussion,
mainly, not for picking up on peoples english mistakes. Get
over it.

You really are on a different wave length aren't you. Up above,
you infer that UB claims to ne innocent.

Where have I not got any of the facts right, Einstein?

Come for a shift out on the road with me. Watch me operate the
radar, see for yourself exactly what speed a motorist is doing
and then watch and be totally amazed at how many people say
exactly the same thing. "I didn't think i was going that fast." or
"nah mate, I'll cop 70, but not 80" or "well my speedo must be out
because it said 70, not 80" or "no way, you're wrong" or "what?
this old thing wont do 80!" .............

In most cases, they're not lieing, they honestly dont believe that
you detected them at that speed. I've detected their speed on
radar in most case before they even see me and have locked
the speed on. By the time they see me, back off or brake, and then
look at their speedos, it is showing considerably less than what is
locked on the radar display. So do try to be a little open minded,
would you and stop seeing things from just your own perspective.
It shows such an immaturity or a disabillity to see the bigger picture.

No, of course not..........

No, I feel it is an offense to go along and plead innocence,
with such a guilty mind.

And what about the ethics of the person perjuring themselves?

If he 'knows' you're speeding, he'll book you for it. The problem is?

Stop thinking that there is this big conspiracy. You're not
realted to Frank Burns, are you? (M*A*S*H)

All radar speeds begin with an estimate anyway. I suspect a
vehicle is speeding, so I realease the radar beam to confirm
my suspicion.

You wouldn't bother. You'd just give the ticket for the
estimated speed. There's no lies, and easy to prove. Granted,
a bit more complicated than a simple radar ticket but hardly worth
the drama of manufacturing a radar ticket out of an estimation.

Spooky

 

So why do they do it then?

G

 

Yes, yes...

Bernd, from memory, NSW was the only state to
fully implement the ARR's in their entirety, making the ARR's
the one and only traffic legislation in NSW.
That was as of December, 99, when the ARR's replaced
the Motor Traffic Act 1909.

A wheeled toy is only a wheeled toy when operated by a
person under 12 years of age. If operated by someone over 12,
it reverts to a vehicle.

What is a vehicle

A vehicle includes:

(a) a motor vehicle, trailer and tram; and

(b) a bicycle; and

(c) an animal-drawn vehicle, and an animal that is being

ridden or drawing a vehicle; and

(d) a combination; and

(e) a motorised wheelchair that can travel at over

10 kilometres per hour (on level ground);

but does not include another kind of wheelchair, a train, or a

wheeled recreational device or wheeled toy.


wheeled toy means a child's pedal car, scooter or tricycle or a similar toy,
but only when it is being used only by a child who is under 12 years old.



Spooky

 

Er, the fact that cops are officers of the court *is*
scary, I agree, but in this context, he's not wrong.

Context JL. In a court, yes they do, kinda, have to prove
it. (Unfortunately, the presumption that the cop isn't lying
under oath is still a bit too prevalent for my liking, but
things are improving). In the context in which he speaks
however, the accused cop is actually on the back foot.

Different rules of evidence and standards of proof apply
in different situations. PIC and internal inquiries are not
courts, and will often have lesser standards of proof.


G

 

Then that's a failing in the technology that *you* need to
feed back via your technical folks to the manufacturer. It
does, I'll admit, make a convenient excuse though.

G

 

Above, or below the newspaper?

G

 

Simply have a key switch that when operated turns the lights (and
hence the 40 zone) on for, say 2-3 hours. A teacher turns the key in
the mornings and afternoons, when there is an out-of-hours excursion
or whatever - IOW, when it's needed. Simple, effective, highly
visible, and, with it only being used when a responsable person
decides it's needed, much less likely to be ignored. Damn - I guess
that won't be happening any time soon. ;-)

Neil
---
Neil Fisher / Bob Young
Thundercords
personal opinion unless otherwise noted.
Looking for spark plug leads?
Check out http://www.magnecor.com.au

 

Nope, it's a direct and specific confirmation of everything
paulh just said: Your attention to detail isn't, and he
does not admit to travelling at the speed alleged.

Nice try at a verbal tho...

G

 

Surely you mean "for all intensive porpoises"? It's not a
split second, it's considerably longer than that. The whole
concept of 'radar' being infallible is a thread in it's
own right.

G