A Day in court...

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Uncle Bully, Dec 7, 2004.

  1. Uncle Bully

    Nev.. Guest

    strange, from your initial response I'd taken you for an authority on 1976
    model 250cc motorcycles.

    Nev..
    '03 ZX12R
     
    Nev.., Dec 8, 2004
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  2. Uncle Bully

    Nev.. Guest

    So you're saying they are legal?

    Nev..
    '03 ZX12R
     
    Nev.., Dec 8, 2004
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  3. Uncle Bully

    KOSHER Guest

    If UNDER 200watts [1/4HP] yes they would be [all bike laws must be followed
    though all the same]

    CDIHL
     
    KOSHER, Dec 8, 2004
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  4. Uncle Bully

    KOSHER Guest

    I think not at all

    I have owned a Rotary Motorised Bike, they have a power-limiter of 200Watts,
    they go ok as in 25km/h but they are not like the 2HP+ of these Chinese ones
    flooding the market

    30 Watts would be like a remote control car/toy output

    CDIHL
     
    KOSHER, Dec 8, 2004
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  5. Uncle Bully

    Theo Bekkers Guest

    I had a combi with the 1100cc motor. A 1:1000 rise was detectable.
    Wow! My combi never went that fast.

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Dec 8, 2004
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  6. Uncle Bully

    Theo Bekkers Guest

    Depends on the voltage and where it is attached to you. Certainly enough
    power to read by in the dunny.

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Dec 8, 2004
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  7. Thanks, that's what I thought. Geez even a good push bike rider can
    crank out more than 200 watts almost continuously.
     
    Dunne E. Dawe, Dec 8, 2004
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  8. I've ridden a CB250 whatever year that was and reckon it accelerated from
    40kph to 60kph pretty well.
     
    Rainbow Warrior, Dec 8, 2004
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  9. Uncle Bully

    Michael C Guest

    What are they going to do, dyno it on the side of the road?

    Michael
     
    Michael C, Dec 8, 2004
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  10. Uncle Bully

    Theo Bekkers Guest

    Just as well you didn't try the Kwaka 250 triple of that time.

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Dec 8, 2004
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  11. Why does it depend on the voltage? Thirty watts is 30 watts, surely.
     
    Dunne E. Dawe, Dec 8, 2004
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  12. Or even read the compliance plate?
    If it is a home built, they might take it to their test lab.
    Depends on how obsequious you are to Plod :)
     
    Dunne E. Dawe, Dec 8, 2004
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  13. Was that the "Widow Maker"?
     
    Dunne E. Dawe, Dec 8, 2004
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  14. Uncle Bully

    Nev.. Guest

    in 5th gear? 4th? 3rd? 2nd?

    Nev..
    '03 ZX12R
     
    Nev.., Dec 8, 2004
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  15. Uncle Bully

    Theo Bekkers Guest

    No, that was the 750 triple.

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Dec 8, 2004
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  16. Uncle Bully

    Theo Bekkers Guest

    I was being facetious. OTOH if a 30 watt 6 volt power supply was attached to
    your index fingers, you wuldn't feel it at all. A 30 watt 240volt supply
    attached the same way is enough to kill you.

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Dec 8, 2004
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  17. Uncle Bully

    Johnnie5 Guest


    hmm lets see 240v pocket bikes lol
     
    Johnnie5, Dec 8, 2004
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  18. Uncle Bully

    GiJO Guest

    I would also include these to points in your argument.

    1. That the car pulled over to let you pass, and the safest passing manouver
    was at the speed you conducted it rather than being under the speed limit
    and in a vulnerable position for a longer period of time. And if they say,
    "well you shouldn't have passed" then you go on to say that there was no
    space to safely to pull over behind the car (only say that if there wasn't).
    The key word is "SAFE".

    2. Say that you believe the radar was reading incorrectly as the other car
    would have been in the radar frame and, being a metal object, was causing
    interferrence in the spread of the radar.

    Have they actually given you proof that you were speeding? eg a photo or a
    read out? if now i would also apply that to your argument. They are asking
    you to prove your innocence, i don't see how you can't ask them to prove
    your guilt... just don't say anything in a tone or a manner that is
    condecending and likely to piss off the judge.
     
    GiJO, Dec 8, 2004
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  19. Uncle Bully

    GiJO Guest

    those Pocket Bikes are illegal regardless of their power as their total
    height is too low to the ground. The stand up scooters are high enough to be
    legal so that other vehicles can see you, even with the seats that some of
    them come with.

    Most scooters are sold under 200w of power, but are quite easy to get 1500w
    out of them with a few tweaks.

    --
    Thanks
    Andrew


     
    GiJO, Dec 8, 2004
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  20. Uncle Bully

    Lord-Data Guest

    Except that you can't prove you were doing 40 to start with .. acceleration
    of the bike is irrelevant .. he could have been going up the hill at 75, and
    just overtaken the bike as you came up on it..
     
    Lord-Data, Dec 8, 2004
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